Lost Stripes

[Palmetto Reptiles]

These pics are of the same snake. The first is as a hatchling, and the second is two years later. Parents were a Bell Line amel striped motley to a redcoat lava het snow. Any thoughts as to what influence or combination of influences are at work? Whatever is going on it has resulted in a nearly perfect patternless.

 

[UniqueSnakes]

Wow!!! Now that's a make over!! )..

 

[chris68]

These pics are of the same snake. The first is as a hatchling, and the second is two years later. Parents were a Bell Line amel striped motley to a redcoat lava het snow. Any thoughts as to what influence or combination of influences are at work? Whatever is going on it has resulted in a nearly perfect patternless.

Don't the Bell line Sunrise amel mot/stripes start off looking kind of like a snow at first before coloring up as they grow?

 

[Palmetto Reptiles]

That's what I thought. The mother had the typical striped/motley markings, but I never saw her as a young snake. I have also seen examples that started showing a white flecking. I hope this snake keeps the solid red color. It would make a nice fire stripe.

 

[DragonsDenSerpents]

Wow, what a difference! I'd have thought she was homo diffused based on the second photo. Stunning girl!

 

[Jessica29]

What a difference! Absolutly stunning snake. No idea what s/he may be, but I want one lol

 

[chris68]

I wonder, if being from a redcoat line would possibly mask the flecking that would develop if it was from the Sunrise line? And the little I know of the Sunrise line having it appear from two parents not known to carry it, but one of the parents is from the source where it first was seen and also of the morph combo, amel motley/stripe, it seems to "piggyback" with (just assuming here everyone ) kind of deepens the mystery

Very interesting, plus what a beautiful looking corn snake :*).

 

[dave partington]

I wonder, if being from a redcoat line would possibly mask ...............
it seems to "piggyback" with .......

THIS. The translucent top coating red covers up the other colors below, and light still penetrates through the redcoat and then reflects back the colors of deeper layers of skin,
plus the way being het for certain combinations of genetics (&/or traits) can influence visual color.

Had to do a double taker on that there good looker.
Thanks for sharing-

 

[chris68]

plus the way being het for certain combinations of genetics (&/or traits) can influence visual color.

So far I've only seen whats being called "Sunrise" in tandem with amel mot/stripes...the baby pic (1st one) looks like what a baby Sunrise amel/mot looks like...

 

[Palmetto Reptiles]

I wonder, if being from a redcoat line would possibly mask the flecking that would develop if it was from the Sunrise line? And the little I know of the Sunrise line having it appear from two parents not known to carry it, but one of the parents is from the source where it first was seen and also of the morph combo, amel motley/stripe, it seems to "piggyback" with (just assuming here everyone ) kind of deepens the mystery

Very interesting, plus what a beautiful looking corn snake :*).

Thanks. I was wondering the same about the redcoat influence. Just to complicate the issue more, though, his ventral is almost completely snow white. My redcoats all have a lot of orange on the ventrals, especially on the lower half. I do have a female sibling of his that I will be pairing him with this year. She is an amel (no pattern mutations visible), and is extremely red. I will post a pic of her as soon as she sheds. She is deep blue now, and it would be pointless until she sheds. I really hope I can reproduce his look. He is by far the most patternless corn I have seen.

 

[nmoore601]

Was the female a virgin? What was she breed to last year?

 

[Palmetto Reptiles]

She was not a virgin, but she had not been bred for two years prior to this pairing.

 

[nmoore601]

That's wild. Should not demonstrate sunrise unless both parents are carriers. I think you have an awesome vs corn. Bell isn't at play

 

[Palmetto Reptiles]

That's wild. Should not demonstrate sunrise unless both parents are carriers. I think you have an awesome vs corn. Bell isn't at play

That being the case I can't wait to see the result of pairing him to his sibling this year. She is an extremely red amel. She's also extremely blue right now. I will post a pic of her after she sheds.

 

[dave partington]

What were their grandparents and great grandparents het & homo for?

 

[Palmetto Reptiles]

I can only trace the paternal side of the tree. The grandparents on his side were a redcoat lava and a snow motley. All I know about the mom is that she was a Bell Line stripe/motley amel.