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Miami Phase

Green_Snake

Green_Snake

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Hello everybody!!!!!! I hope you're all having a fine day (or night...)

I have yet another question.

I'm considering getting a lovely Miami phase female to breed to my orange motley. does that sound like an OK match? The Miami has unknown hets, and my Motley is completely unknown, although I don't think he's a het.

Any ideas? I know there are predictor programs, but my internet is too slow to download them.

Thanks!!!

-Greeney
 
That's probably not a match made in heaven. No babies will be motley, only het for motley. Both parents must either be motley of het for motley to produce motleys.

Miami is a selectively-bred normal. So, to get nice Miamis, you must breed two Miamis together. Miami is not a genetic trait- your babies will not be het for Miami.

Your best bet for your mot is any other mot. But if you love the Miami, get her, and then just find mates for both!
 
The snake you have now appears to be an amel motley (motley being discriptive of the pattern). A Miami phase is a Normal. You wouldn't really be moving ahead to breed those. As far as your amel being het who knows, it is an amel motley hets unknown. Not that I'm an expert on genetics far from it, but I would go with another amel maybe a stripe or another motley, to try to see if there are any hidden hets. ???
 
OK. Thanks.

Also, I don't think my Motley is an amel, because he's not an albino. He really looks like one. When I bought him, I was told he was an amel, but he has brown/black eyes. Not pink.
 
The pairing you decide to make is completely up to whatever you would like to do. That particular breeding probably won't create anything spectacular (morph-wise) but that is a matter of opinion. I hatched out a really really neat hypo from a normal to a hypo lav. Nothing spectacular, but I think he's awesome.

If you are not looking for anything spectacular, then breed however you'd like. It could always be a nice way to test for any hets... at least 70% of the cornsnake population worldwide is het for amel. There is a good chance that both adults may be too. You could also always keep the babies and breed them back to each other, thus recovering the motley gene.

Because the miami is a selectively bred trait, its not a mutation that can pass on a het. However, you may get lucky enough to get babies that have the trait as well, and with this you can start a project. :)

(I'm a huge selective breeding buff, can you tell?)
 
Green_Snake said:
OK. Thanks.

Also, I don't think my Motley is an amel, because he's not an albino. He really looks like one. When I bought him, I was told he was an amel, but he has brown/black eyes. Not pink.
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You are 100% correct. Having brown/black eyes points to a normal motley or possibly hypo (based on the bright/light coloring). Its very hard to tell because motley has a hypo-ish affect.
 
Thanks!!!

I've had my eye on an Female 2006 Anery Motley
het Hypo, Stripe possible het Amel, but her Weight as of December 26, 2007 is 38 grams. I don't know what she weighs now, but I want to breed next year, and don't think she'll be ready. Hmmmm.. She's really pretty.

What about a reverse Okeetee? What would that look like with my motley?
 
Well, they will produce just normal motleys, unless your motley happens to be het/homo hypo, anery (likely), of amel (very likely). Its hard to tell what your snake expresses phenotypically. He is very bright and light than some normal motelys I have seen, yet I have seen some that are as bright as he is.

Whatever the case may be, they will prodice motelys for sure. The female's hets are good hets to test him against... those are the 3 most common genes. You could throw amel motleys, anery motleys, snow motleys... it all depends on what he has hidden under his skirt... er scales. :)

And to answer your previous questions, yes 38g is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to small to breed. A female needs to be at about 300g at least to breed safely.
 
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