Miami

[nmoore601]

I'm using a Miami male in a few breedings this year. I've only ever breed Miami x Miami

Will using the male Miami with non miami females have the chance of producing a Miami mutant?


:sidestep:

 

[Susan]

Never say never, but the chances of producing Miami-phase offspring from that type of pairing is dramatically reduced. It would be similar to breeding an English Bulldog with a Shepherd hoping to get some pups that look just like purebred Shepherds.

 

[nmoore601]

I just wanted some feed back from the community. I had one breeder tell me I stood a good chance of getting a Miami. Guess time will tell.

Thanks for the feedback Susan.

 

[MysticExotics]

Depends on what kind of "non Miami" you use, as to whether you will end up with babies that resemble Miami's.

And they won't be "mutants". Miami's are (locality) normals that are known for their grey ground color, as are Alabama's. If you pair a Miami with a regular looking "Classic" corn, their both "normals" & you're not getting any sort of mutant babies.

 

[nmoore601]

You are exactly right not a mutant. My bad.

 

[diamondlil]

Have you looked at Carol's LBR Miamis? Years of linebreeding and careful selection to produce them. As I understand the stark contrasts are from polygenic traits, so mixing a good Miami with anything else is taking a shot in the dark

 

[nmoore601]

My miamis from carol are babies. I'm not really after creating more miamis. Just wanted to know if the could pop up on the breedings I have lined up for my male.

 

[Walter Smith]

Nick, I have found that when breeding a Miami phase into non-Miami phase animals you could get some that have a somewhat Miami coloration. Then again you could not.

As Heather mentioned, it depends on the non-Mimai animals, but also the line of Miami phase you are using.

Here is a couple examples:

Pic. 1) Miami X Sunkissed - bred by Jeff Mohr

Pic. 2) The F1 offspring from the above breeding - These did have a little of the Miami phase coloration as hatchlings, however it blended away with maturity.

Pic. 3) The F2 offspring from the F1 breeding

As you can see, the F1's don't have much at the the classic Mimai coloration now, however it can be somewhat recovered in the F2 generation.

Walter
:crazy02:BOUT' CORNS !!

 

[Walter Smith]

Here is another example:

Pic. 1 ) Fire X Miami Phase - Carol Huddleston line.

Pic. 2 ) F1 holdbacks from the above breeding - As you can see here, these held their Miami Phase coloration into adulthood.
This is where I say that Carol has a VERY strong Mimai line.

Pic. 3 ) F2 ( 2012 ) Mimai Phase Bloodred from the above F1 breeding.

Walter
:crazy02:BOUT' CORNS !!

 

[nmoore601]

I really appreciate that Walter.

Thanks for the reply.

 

[nmoore601]

Carol has intense Miami corns. This guy I have originated from Carol!

 

[NiklasTyreso]

Do you want to produce great coloured yellow or red snakes from a miami?
It is not very likely to happen.

Grey pigments have a tendency to show up over the reds/yellows pigments, in a way that masks the colours beneath.

 

[Nanci]

Nice examples, Walter!!