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More aggressive corn?

gluttony32

gluttony32

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I have a few snakes of all different species, and I find that out of all of them my Crimson corn snake is the nippiest I have ever owned, and no matter how much handling her she never calms down or stops biting. Will she ever outgrow this she is a yearling now, I hold her about twice a week for a few minutes. I also just purchased 2 Miami phase corns and they seem a bit nippy also. Are all florida corns this aggressive?
 
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No I feed them out of their enclosures in separate containers, I wash my hands before I take them out also. They all eat frozen thawed and have never killed. I use a snake hook to lift her out gently and she strikes at me and when i touch her she bites, even if i hold her gently she turns and bites repeatedly. She just wont sit still and doesnt tolerate being held, with the amount of times i have held her she should be tame or less nippy at least, as has been the case with other snakes, but not the this crimson.
 
Maybe you can try holding her more then twice a week, and longer then a few minutes? The more you handle the more she might get use to you.
 
gluttony32 said:
No I feed them out of their enclosures in separate containers, I wash my hands before I take them out also. They all eat frozen thawed and have never killed. I use a snake hook to lift her out gently and she strikes at me and when i touch her she bites, even if i hold her gently she turns and bites repeatedly. She just wont sit still and doesnt tolerate being held, with the amount of times i have held her she should be tame or less nippy at least, as has been the case with other snakes, but not the this crimson.
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They mean does the snake smell the other snakes on you. Are they in the same room with the other snakes. Kingsnakes for one eat other snakes and if you have one of those then your corn might smell it on you and want to bite.

Also more handling the better. I try to hold my kingsnake everyday he isn't digesting. He is very very aggressive but has now calmed down enough that I can hold him without gloves and only get bitten maybe twice lol.
 
I do have kings and they are in the same room so that might be a factor, but all my snakes that bit eventually calmed down and are nice and calm now. As for holding them more often, if i didnt work 70 hours + a week and have kids that i need to hold instead that would be an option, I think twice a week for a few minutes is more than enough time to divide amongst my collection. My question is if florida corns are more aggressive since Okeetes and Miamis seem to be more aggressive and dont tolerate being held as well. So are florida kings and Everglades rats , even yellow and black rats are in the same category.
 
I think I've read on here before that Okeetees and Miamis might be more aggressive because they are closer to wild caught or some such thing like that. But to me that doesn't really make sense unless they had a pretty recent wild caught relative. Because we wouldn't have captive snakes if someone hadn't taken them from the wild to breed our captive stock in the first place.
 
I've had two Crimsons from different breeders and I think they are WAY more difficult than any other morph I've owned or handled. I hear different from everyone else though, so i guess it's just my (and yours) individual snake's temperment. Mitch
 
mjdglobal said:
I've had two Crimsons from different breeders and I think they are WAY more difficult than any other morph I've owned or handled. I hear different from everyone else though, so i guess it's just my (and yours) individual snake's temperment. Mitch
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where did you get yours from? If u dont mind me asking...i bought mine from VMS herp..and its a beautiful anima(the crimson)l...and my 2 new ones are from BHB reptiles(miamis). The two new ones are tiny and tried to bite initially but have calmed down...its a shame with the crimson because she is beautiful...its actually more of an inconvinience.
 
For what it's worth Okeetees come from South Carolina, a couple of states up from Florida. I've worked with those for a while now, and overall, they are corn snakes. I've had some pissy ones, but the ones that aren't, well... aren't! Most wild caught ones tame readily, some are just nervous, others aren't at all, and most are in between. Without a doubt I see more bitey babies from nervous adults, I think most breeders will agree on that.
 
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Thanx for clearing that up Elrojo...I thought they were from Florida for some reason...but still I have heard the same thing from people that own them, that their temperament isnt as docile as other corns.
 
My crimson baby is 7months, she's very jumpy and nervous, but she has never, and probably will never bite. If she would have nipped, she would have nipped me by now I'm sure.
Her mother, crimson as well, is a real sweetheart. Her father is afraid of his own shadow, but even with this fact he only bites when he's in a really bad mood.

I really don't think it's the morph. It's just based off of personality, really.
Handling only twice a week for a few minutes in definitely not enough to tame a nippy snake. As both Sarah and WingedSweetheart said, try everyday that (s)he isn't digesting. I realize that you mentioned the lack of time you have, but even just for 5 minutes everyday rather than twice a week. If your snake was calm, I agree, twice a week is fine, but considering that (s)he needs a little taming, it's just not enough.

Personally, I don't recommend a snake hook. It usually freaks them out a little more, and you don't give them proper support. If you're afraid of being bitten, wear gloves.
 
I really dont use the snake hook that often...and I most definatley not afraid of getting bit. I hold her for about 5 minutes twice a week, Every other snake i own including brb's which are notorious for being nippy eventually calmed down with five mins of holding twice a week. I have 14 snakes and she is the only one with this temperament. As for holding her more...I think Maybe I should hire someone to hold my snake for me..lmao..all jokes aside Getting home at 2 am 3 nights a week and working 14 hour shifts the rest of the week I simply dont have the time to hold her more than I do. With fishing season coming up they will all have even less time. It doesnt matter though i will not let her go or give up on her even if she never calms down. Thank you all for ur comments and help.
 
You stated you have kids. Are they old enough to help with the tamer snakes so you have more time with "bitey?"
 
Dreamsnake definitely does have a good idea there, and also I understand what you mean with the work schedule. I once had a very similar scenario (got out of there!). Maybe if your kids aren't old enough to help, maybe a friend or something?
It's good that it worked for you before, and I hope it works out for you! It's too bad you had to get a rough first impression with a crimson, but I'm happy to hear that you're not giving up!
Best of luck.
 
My son is 6 and my daughter is 4, My wife will tolerate my collection and even handle a few snakes when needed, as for asking her to hold one that bites...lol. I live in a remote suburb about 60 miles away from where I knew everyone and could get soemone to help easily, (and this sounds a bit shady) but all my neighbors now are so stuck up and full of it, That in 9 years of living here I barely know anyone. Getting soemone to say hello is a major task here. The one person I do know is so lazy driving a half a mile is goin out of his way and wont do it, and if he did he would want gas money. Im going to tough it out with her she is my best looking cornsnake..Miamis and crimsons are my favorite morphs
 
Sorry about your neighbors, most of mine think snakes are evil. My seven year old son is aloud to hold two of the snakes with supervision, the two year old son can have one of the snakes slither on him.

Your wife may have better luck with snakes if she wears nail polish. I've noted that reptiles are attracted to colored nails. However if her movements are jerky it may make the painted nails mute. I'm working on an experiment with snakes and scent as well. My snow seems to like the smell of cherry blossoms.
 
Dreamsnake said:
Sorry about your neighbors, most of mine think snakes are evil. My seven year old son is aloud to hold two of the snakes with supervision, the two year old son can have one of the snakes slither on him.

Your wife may have better luck with snakes if she wears nail polish. I've noted that reptiles are attracted to colored nails. However if her movements are jerky it may make the painted nails mute. I'm working on an experiment with snakes and scent as well. My snow seems to like the smell of cherry blossoms.
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This is so funny because I noticed that my corn snakes hate the smell of my dish soap. So when I got my kingsnake and found him to be very fond of trying to eat my fingers, I decided to buy some really smelly hand lotion. It just so happened to be cherry blossom and it made my king go nuts. I believe he bit me more than ever that day.... So strange the things snakes like and dislike :rofl:
 
lol

I am a chef by trade and on occasion my hands smell of fish and I find that my snakes react to the smell of my hands which is understandable, but they react even worse to the smell of special soap I use to wash away any smells on my hands...lol
 
I think the idea was that your wife or kids could hold your more docile and calm ones giving you the time to work with bitey yourself. There is a youtube video out of a rat snake that someone has handled a lot and just persists in being a biter no matter how much he is handled according to the video. Maybe this one is just traumatically scarred from some incedent and figures he is always in danger and therefore must protect himself.
 
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