2manysnakes
I smell a rat
These are our new snakes. I'm still learning how to identify them, so I wanted to ask your opinion.
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2manysnakes
I smell a rat
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Kevin McRae
Manitoban Reptiles
Anery
Amel
Amel
Anery
Carmel?
Anery
Amel
Amel
Amel
lol, I'm not too good with morohs, but I know I got a few right.
Amel
Amel
Anery
Carmel?
Anery
Amel
Amel
Amel
lol, I'm not too good with morohs, but I know I got a few right.
Okay, here goes nothing.
1 - anery
2 - amel/sunglow
3 - hmmm, that one's interesting beacuse it almost looks to dark to be an amel, which was my first thought. i'll say amel though.
5 - anery, although I'd like to see him out of shed, if you have the chance.
6 - amber
7 - amel
8 - Amel, looks like an RO.
9 - amel
10 - BEAUTIFUL amel
11 - amel/RO
okay, so those are my guesses.
Great group of snakes. By the way, which is the young female that may be gravid that was talked about in the breeding forum?
1 - anery
2 - amel/sunglow
3 - hmmm, that one's interesting beacuse it almost looks to dark to be an amel, which was my first thought. i'll say amel though.
5 - anery, although I'd like to see him out of shed, if you have the chance.
6 - amber
7 - amel
8 - Amel, looks like an RO.
9 - amel
10 - BEAUTIFUL amel
11 - amel/RO
okay, so those are my guesses.
Great group of snakes. By the way, which is the young female that may be gravid that was talked about in the breeding forum?
2manysnakes
I smell a rat
We think that #6 may be but not sure.
susang
New member
still new at this but will give it a go:
1. ?
2. amel blue gravid
3. amel blue gravid
4. hypo (?) blue gravid
5. anery (?) blue gravid
6. ?
7. 8. 9. amel gravid
10. 11. amel
gravid is my opinion, either that or they are fat????
So you have at least 7 gravid females which means you should start stocking up on pinkies now, lol. Good luck with all of this that could be a %^&& load of hatchlings. susan
1. ?
2. amel blue gravid
3. amel blue gravid
4. hypo (?) blue gravid
5. anery (?) blue gravid
6. ?
7. 8. 9. amel gravid
10. 11. amel
gravid is my opinion, either that or they are fat????
So you have at least 7 gravid females which means you should start stocking up on pinkies now, lol. Good luck with all of this that could be a %^&& load of hatchlings. susan
Without stating pattern morphs, these are my best guesses:
1 Anery
2 Amel in shed, might be "sunglow"
3 Probably Amel (can't see eyes)
4 Hypo (note black pupils and grey blotch borders)
5 Anery or charcoal in shed (if eyes were not blue, it'd be easier to tell...)
6 Absolutely gorgeous caramel
7 Amel verging on "sunglow"
8 Amel
9 Amel verging on "sunglow"
10 Amel
11 Amel verging on "reverse okeetee"
1 Anery
2 Amel in shed, might be "sunglow"
3 Probably Amel (can't see eyes)
4 Hypo (note black pupils and grey blotch borders)
5 Anery or charcoal in shed (if eyes were not blue, it'd be easier to tell...)
6 Absolutely gorgeous caramel
7 Amel verging on "sunglow"
8 Amel
9 Amel verging on "sunglow"
10 Amel
11 Amel verging on "reverse okeetee"
jmksnakes
Ectotherm Addict
tbtusk: I'm with you on almost everything. O.K., here we go!
1) Anery A
2) Sunglow
3) Sunglow... possible Amel Bloodred (we'd have to see ventral shots)
4) I'm thinkin' ultramel (or possibly hypo)
5) Anery B
6) Amber
7) Sunglow
8) Reverse Ok.
9) Sunglow
10) Amel
11) Reverse Ok.
:shrugs:
1) Anery A
2) Sunglow
3) Sunglow... possible Amel Bloodred (we'd have to see ventral shots)
4) I'm thinkin' ultramel (or possibly hypo)
5) Anery B
6) Amber
7) Sunglow
8) Reverse Ok.
9) Sunglow
10) Amel
11) Reverse Ok.
:shrugs:
2manysnakes
I smell a rat
Some more pics of #3 and one more of #6
Topazfyre
Active member
Okay, here it goes (watch all of these be wrong...)
1. Anery... but there's something odd about it, like it's het for Ice or something.
2. I would say Lava because of the darker coloring, translucent, thin borders, and what looks like the Mimic Motley Pattern.
3. Lava, again, same reasoning.
4. Hypomelanistic- lighter colors with a rather thin border.
5. Charcoal because of the brown and lack of yellow pigment.
6. Amber.
7. Amel.
8. Ultramel- the orange red scales with the really pale yellow ground color.
9. Amel.
10. Amel.
11. Another Ultramel.
Just my opinions. Hope everything goes well, seems really exciting! ^_^
1. Anery... but there's something odd about it, like it's het for Ice or something.
2. I would say Lava because of the darker coloring, translucent, thin borders, and what looks like the Mimic Motley Pattern.
3. Lava, again, same reasoning.
4. Hypomelanistic- lighter colors with a rather thin border.
5. Charcoal because of the brown and lack of yellow pigment.
6. Amber.
7. Amel.
8. Ultramel- the orange red scales with the really pale yellow ground color.
9. Amel.
10. Amel.
11. Another Ultramel.
Just my opinions. Hope everything goes well, seems really exciting! ^_^
marchettid
New member
1anery
5anery
6 caramel
the rest ameanistics.
5anery
6 caramel
the rest ameanistics.
jmksnakes said:
And I meant to say hypo for 4 too.
I'm thinking het blood for #3 but homo is possible. The only thing is my normal het snow stripe (i don't think any of those genes would cause it) has a ventral just like that, except with black of course, so that could just be a strange pattern too, although i think that's unlikely. Not sure, only breeding trials will tell for sure of course.
2manysnakes: jeez, that caramel (amber) really is young! She'd worry me if she seemed gravid. I'd be worried about her being gravid too.
Now are you planning on testing these guys to see what they really are? And if so how? Just breed them to each other and see what pops out and hope that gives you some insight? It's going to be fun to see what the hets are.
2manysnakes
I smell a rat
We are hopping to get some papers or somehow contact the previous owner to find out. Other wise it could take years to find out all the morphs and hets in there.
We found out the previous owner had to sell them because of getting married and housing rules where he moved. The friend of ours didn't want him to sell them online because he would loss his supply. So he bought them and didn't have enough cages for them all. He put them all in one big cage and they were in there for about 2-3 weeks. In that time he saw them all getting it on with everyone. Thats were we got them. He does have paprework on them all listing hets and everthing. We are going back to get those papers and play look it up.
We found out the previous owner had to sell them because of getting married and housing rules where he moved. The friend of ours didn't want him to sell them online because he would loss his supply. So he bought them and didn't have enough cages for them all. He put them all in one big cage and they were in there for about 2-3 weeks. In that time he saw them all getting it on with everyone. Thats were we got them. He does have paprework on them all listing hets and everthing. We are going back to get those papers and play look it up.
PtDnsr
I like calculus
1 - anery
2 - amel/sunglow in blue
3 - amel/sunglow in blue too?
4 - normal or hypo, can't tell
5 - anery in blue
6 - caramel
7 - amel/sunglow
8 - amel
9 - amel/sunglow
10 - amel
11 - amel
There's my input. Many of them I put amel/sunglow because it's hard to tell - many of them look to be in shed. Can you possibly get a shot from above on that caramel? That would probably help a little. She sure is small though. If they were together for 2-3 weeks they're probably getting to the point of prelay sheds so you'll want lots of lay boxes for the girls...well, anyone that sheds really unless you've probed them. Otherwise you could end up with a "boy" that lays eggs based on the word of this guy.
~Katie
2 - amel/sunglow in blue
3 - amel/sunglow in blue too?
4 - normal or hypo, can't tell
5 - anery in blue
6 - caramel
7 - amel/sunglow
8 - amel
9 - amel/sunglow
10 - amel
11 - amel
There's my input. Many of them I put amel/sunglow because it's hard to tell - many of them look to be in shed. Can you possibly get a shot from above on that caramel? That would probably help a little. She sure is small though. If they were together for 2-3 weeks they're probably getting to the point of prelay sheds so you'll want lots of lay boxes for the girls...well, anyone that sheds really unless you've probed them. Otherwise you could end up with a "boy" that lays eggs based on the word of this guy.
~Katie
1. Anery
2. Amel (could be Sunglow)
3. Amel (could be Sunglow)
4. Hypo
5. Anery
6. Amber
7. Amel (could be Sunglow)
8. Amel (IMO Not quite wide, or clean, enough borders for a Reverse Okeetee)
9. Amel (could be Sunglow)
10. Amel
11. Amel (IMO Not quite wide, or clean, enough borders for a Reverse Okeetee)
2. Amel (could be Sunglow)
3. Amel (could be Sunglow)
4. Hypo
5. Anery
6. Amber
7. Amel (could be Sunglow)
8. Amel (IMO Not quite wide, or clean, enough borders for a Reverse Okeetee)
9. Amel (could be Sunglow)
10. Amel
11. Amel (IMO Not quite wide, or clean, enough borders for a Reverse Okeetee)
2manysnakes
I smell a rat
Thanks everyone
So many different opinions, but I have gone with the majority vote to classify each of them. I felt kind of silly at first not being able to positively ID any of them, but it seems that I am not alone lol. These little suckers can be quite tricky. Thank you all for your help.
So many different opinions, but I have gone with the majority vote to classify each of them. I felt kind of silly at first not being able to positively ID any of them, but it seems that I am not alone lol. These little suckers can be quite tricky. Thank you all for your help.