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Morph Formulas: Ghost Bloodred?

Sai_Keths

Sai_Keths

CornSnake Lover
I saw Buzzard's corn, a ghost bloodred
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Well I have a female Classic Het Striped/Motley 66% Amel whose parents were a Male snow and A female striped
I also have a Male, Het amel Anery and an unknown het, Male Snow.
My question to you is this:
Who will I need to buy or breed to produce these beautiful Ghost colors?
 
First off, if the parents of your female classic het stripes/motley 66% amel were a snow and a striped, your female would be a classic het amel anery stripe...no motley, no 66% het as it would be a definite het.

The gene make-up for a ghost bloodred is hypo A, anery and diffuse (bloodred) so for you to produce these, none of your current snakes is really a good start so you might as well just go ahead and purchase a ghost bloodred and be done with it. If you want to then produce more, it will be much easier to find a mate to give you a better chance of making more of them.
 
No. She is a Classic 66 Amel Het Striped Motley. I really dont know much about the genetics of a GhostBlood so I thought one of my snakes might help.
So you are saying that I should get a ghost and a Bloodred? Wow, thanks for the help professor.
 
Sai_Keths said:
No. She is a Classic 66 Amel Het Striped Motley.
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Then her sire could not, possibly, have been a Snow.
Also, it is impossible for a snake to be het for both Stripe and Motley unless the snake exhibits the pattern in its phenotype. Since you state one parent was a Stripe, then she would be het Stripe and Stripe alone.
'Course, another possibility is that the mother wasn't a Stripe, either, since the father could not have been a Snow.
Another possibility is that you mean the Striped version of Motley. A snake will not be het for the striped form of Motley. Progeny, from a striped version of Motley, are just said to be het Motley.

Edit to add: Progeny from a Snow X Stripe = Classic 100% Het Anery, Amel, Stripe.
Progeny from a Snow X Motley (no matter the form of Motley) = Classic 100% Het Anery, Amel, Motley
 
BTW You cannot produce Ghost Bloods with what you have.
You, also, will not be able to produce Ghost Bloods, in the first generation (with what you have), even if you purchase another snake to add the needed genes.
With what you have, and if you added the missing genes (with another snake or two), you will not be able to produce Ghost Bloods until, at a minimum, the second generation.
As has been pointed out, a Ghost Blood is Anery + Hypo + Blood (you are, currently, missing genes for Blood and Hypo). ~Both~ parents must carry all three of those genes (in either het or homo form) in order to produce Ghost Bloods.
 
I thought Susan's post a great answer to your question. Yet you give attitude about it. Possibly because you did not like her answer. But she answered it. It would take you a minimum of 6 years to produce a ghost bloodred with what you have. I would just get one and get it over with. Like Susan said.
 
For the last time, no matter what gene calculations you have made, they are wrong, my snake is a Classic, she is het for Striped and motley 66 Amel, Im not trying to be mean but I was looking for something other than get two GhostBloods and breed them because the guy I get my snakes from has no GhostBloods and im sorry but I just dont have $150 to order one from California.
 
Could we please forget about the corns I have, I just wanted to know how to breed Bloodred Ghosts, and since I only found out about them 2 hours ago, I wasnt sure if what I had would help or not.
 
Sai_Keths said:
Could we please forget about the corns I have, I just wanted to know how to breed Bloodred Ghosts, and since I only found out about them 2 hours ago, I wasnt sure if what I had would help or not.
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If you would bother to read, the answer has been given to you.
See below:

Pasodama said:
As has been pointed out, a Ghost Blood is Anery + Hypo + Blood (you are, currently, missing genes for Blood and Hypo). ~Both~ parents must carry all three of those genes (in either het or homo form) in order to produce Ghost Bloods.
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So, you need to have snakes that carry those genes.

Some friendly advice, please learn some more before you breed.

As for what you have, we are not using corn Calculators/Calculations.:rolleyes:
It is called years of experience, knowledge, and facts.
 
Sai_Keths said:
Could we please forget about the corns I have, I just wanted to know how to breed Bloodred Ghosts, and since I only found out about them 2 hours ago, I wasnt sure if what I had would help or not.
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Your arguments are invalid. There is NO POSSIBLE WAY your snake is poss. Het Amel if the father is a snow. She would be 100% het Anery A and Amel. If the mother was a Stripe that would make your snake a Normal 100% het Anery Amel Stripe. You're debating years of proven scientific research. If you don't know what the geneotypes of your snakes are and you can't figure it out with all the resources that are out there don't breed snakes.....
 
Ugh, for starters, you don't even know what you have. If the father is a snow, then your snake is 100% het for amel.

To make a ghost bloodred, you need to have a male and a female snake that BOTH have hypo, anery and bloodred genes in their makeup. You don't. As they say,"You can't get there from here".

Just throwing snakes together "because you can", having not even the BASIC knowlege of genetics, would make you a backyard breeder. Is that what you want to be?

Plus, you are very rude. Susan has been breeding snakes possibly even longer than you have been alive, and she knows what she is talking about. You should not only learn about genetics, but enrolling in a good charm school and learning some manners wouldn't hurt you either......
 
Sai-Keths,

If you want to produce Ghost Bloods, both female and male will need Bloodred, Hypo, and Anery A somewhere in the genetic make up. For instance: Hypo Bloodred het Anery; Ghost(Anery A, Hypo) het Bloodred; Bloodred het Hypo Bloodred; Anery A het Hypo Bloodred; ect.... Remember both parents must have all 3 genes. Then its a random gene pigeon shoot and some combos have a better percentage chance of making Ghost bloods than others. That corn calulator earlier in the post is a great tool, along with Ians web site to help id and get info on the genetic makeup of some of the morphs you might see.

I am honored that you used the pic of Dixie in your post, but next time please ask to use the photo.
 
TBH You are going to spend well over $150 to make a ghost bloodred by the time you buy snakes that have those genes and feed them to breeding age. Then you are going to have 2 snakes that mean nothing other than to have babies and possibly tons of babies to take care of.

If you are wanting to breed snakes that is great. I would take some time and read as much on genetics as you can. We can refer you to some awesome books to help but if you are just doing it because you want that kind of snake I would buy it. :) Plus we are entering breeding season so more snakes are going to become available and you never know another breeder in your area might have one available.
 
A: Forget about what I have. I only know what they look like and what the breeder told me. They might be wrong, I might be remembering the parents wrong.
B: You keep pointing out that I dont know much, and that Im a "backyard breeder" My snakes are only 6 months old, im on here to gather information fot the next few years.
C: All I wanted to know is how to get a bloodred ghost. Susan gave me the answer, but then everyone went on to point out that I couldnt get one with my snakes, I asked who to buy and or breed.
D: Susan, Im sorry that I was mean but it seemed to me that the answer was too simple, and being who I am, and having the day Ive had in class, I snapped, especially because of the writing about my inexperience and how I dont know what my snakes are.
E: Susan, thank you for the information on the genetics.
F: Christen, thank you, you have given me helpful information, nicely.
G: Buzzard, thanks, Im sorry I didnt ask permission for the pic, but your corn was so cool looking and I did give you credit.
 
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