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Need help with the sex! (for the snake not me)

K

Kludgethesnake

Me!
Hi, right, i have had snakes before but you know never like wanted hatchlings! Right iv read up you need to change the temp in the viv or somthing, i never understood theese things! and you guys seem to be more understandable! What if i just stick them in together and wait like how ever long? i dont know how long to wait either....oh and can i just put a hatching box in her viv for her and keep the male in there? and then what do i do with the eggs? its just im getting a female in a cupple of weeks and shes going into the males viv with him, my last seller dose it but i dont know how to get them to breed! i didnt even think of asking her,

also! how old will they be before they start? iv got a 5 week now and going to put anouther in with him! or her.....i HOPE they are a diffrent sex lol!

i know many things to ask but you know! :rolleyes: :sidestep:
 
To be hounist i know what to do but reading up on it from like not a personal view dont mean much to me.....Just need to all said again from people who have dune it before! because well will sound better! i sound like i dont know a thing there but hey ill live just need it all to be said so i KNOW that i got the right info! :) sorry if i came off all like stupid but im not just need more advice thanks jaz x

Kludge-unsexed-5weeks yestaday!
Wook-Male-4yrs
 
They need to be 3 years old AT LEAST before you should even think of breeding them. Also, never co-habitate at any age, unless it is for a short time while they mate. And if they are below 3 years definately not if they are opposite sexes. The female will get egg bound and die.

I haven't bred snakes before, so I can't give you the rest of the advice. I'll leave that to someone else. But please for the snakes sake, don't do it.
 
Well i didnt know that....never heard that before....wired ok :) looks like i need get myself a new viv! And hes over 4 years so thats not a problem! ahh wait i need 2 more vivs! damnit wish i was as good with knowing more about snakes then i am building them homes! haha anyway! thanks guys hopfully somone will be nice to mah!

Kludge-unsexed-5weeks yestaday
Wook-male-4yrs
 
Agreed. Keep them separately for now, then introduce them for mating when the female is 3 years old, 300g in weight and 3 feet long (the safe parameters for a first-timer).

Three years gives you plenty of time to buy Kathy and Bill Love's book "Corns Snakes - The Comprehensive Owner's Guide" from Amazon, or order it from a book shop (ask them for ISBN 1-882770-70-6). It will give you a thorough grounding in keeping and breeding Corns. Hopefully we can fill in the gaps if you find advice that doesn't make sense to you.
 
Corn snakes will generally breed from the age of 18 - 24 months of age if they have been well fed and so are reaching adult size.

Like most animals from temperate climates, corn snakes lives are dictated by the seasons.

Anyone who has kept cage birds will be familiar with the way the first breath of spring will make them show a new lease of life. They sing and sing. They flirt.

And soon enough they'll be mating. And all this so that their young hatch out at a time of year where there is enough warmth to help their young develop quickly, but most importantly, where there is the most plentiful supply of food.

Finches eggs hatch just in time for the hatching of millions of caterpillars in the wild - more than enough nutrious and easy-to-find food for their young.

Corn snakes are no exception.

Whilst they may breed at any time of year in captivity, and often without environmental manipulation - their breeding cycles are much more predictable when using this manipulation and the results also tend to be better.

In corn snakes, the adults should be cooled off over the winter. A final temperature of 10 - 15'C for 12 - 16 weeks is a generally accepted routine though great care must be taken when cooling them off.

They should be cooled separately, and slowly, reducing food so that at the cool period food is not sitting undigested in the snakes gut - which could result in the detah of your snake.

During this period of water should conitnue to be made available though.

After this winter cooling period, warm the snakes back up to their optimum temperature - again doing it slowly so as to not shock the corn snakes system.

At this point your snakes will begin eating huge meals and to prepare them for breeding, as well as making up for the winter period - feed them as much as they'll take.

Then introduce them to each other - putting one corn snake into the cage of the other.

Breeding is likely to happen almost at once but it is worth leaving them together for at least a week to give them numerous chances to mate and so increase the chances of fertile eggs.

Normally after this period the male snake will be removed and the female should be provided with a box containing damp moss in which to lay her eggs which should occur 5 - 6 weeks later.
 
I put my male in with the female and remove him as soon as copulation is complete, returning them together after 3-4 days. I do not leave him in the enclosure with her constantly. This allows him time to rest and rebuild a sperm level and it must work because I ended up with 21 fertile eggs for a first time female. Although in the wild they can breed much earlier there is a high mortality rate in the wild and most snakes don't even survive to their first birthday. There's no need to breed so early in captivity and I think it's safer and less stressful on their bodies if you don't breed them that early. Whether or not they are full sized or not, I think that their internal organs and such are still maturing and need to be allowed to do so without the huge stress of labor. New animals should be quarantined anyway and not placed together for at least 3 months and preferably 6. At this point it doesn't even sound as if you know what sex they are say nothing of taking on the responsibility of breeding them. If the female becomes egg bound are you going to be able to pay for the vet and all the other considerations such as feeding the babies until you find homes for them and all that other mundane stuff?
 
Kludgethesnake said:
To be hounist i know what to do but reading up on it from like not a personal view dont mean much to me.....Just need to all said again from people who have dune it before! because well will sound better! i sound like i dont know a thing there but hey ill live just need it all to be said so i KNOW that i got the right info! :) sorry if i came off all like stupid but im not just need more advice thanks jaz x

Kludge-unsexed-5weeks yestaday!
Wook-Male-4yrs
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had to read this post 4 times and im sorry hun im still lost :shrugs:
 
uservant said:
had to read this post 4 times and im sorry hun im still lost :shrugs:
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Basicly i find it confussing when its not like somone telling me like if i just read it up off the net theres so many diffrent ones, id rather get it off people that have dune it before who know what they are on about, not saying the books and net dont know but its just dont seem they did it them selfs just need somone to tell me them selfs all the stuff about breeding :) i know the rest as had snakes before but just never thought of breeding them! :) just need to know from somone whos started breeding them themselfs from what they did :)
 
wow! OK, first of all, people aren't going to take you serious the way you are typing. there is a spell check at the bottom of the screen everytime you post.

Are you prepared for taking care of 10-20 hatchlings?
Can you afford to feed them?
Can you house them?
Will you be able to incubate them?
What is the outcome for the hatchlings?

This year i bred my snakes (both 3 years old) and she produced 16 fertile eggs and then doubled for an added 12 fertile eggs. Breeding takes a lot of time and effort and it's a big responsibility. Please think care fully before you "stick 2 sankes in teh smae cage"

John
 
Impressed

Wow, John. I looked at your profile & signature several times, where it says you are 14, a breeder w/registered animals, and a contributing member here. Your entire post communicates responsibility and maturity.

I know you aren't alone as a young, responsible hobbyist, but I was very impressed with your message. If I knew how to "spread some reputation" or was qualified to do so, I surely would!
 
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