Need some help - identify

[Tiras]

Hi everyone,
I'd like to register my snakes, but I'm not sure about the morph of two of them.
I wonder if you can help me identify the accurate morphs of the two.
The first one (first pic) is normal (?) female, but I'v seen pics of miami phase that look exactly like her.
The second (4 pics) is a stripe male, which is so bright, I suspect he's a hypo stripe.
I'll appreciate any help,

 

[Roy Munson]

Hi. I'd say Miami-phase and normally colored stripe. Stripe has a hypo-ish effect of its own, and that looks like most of the normally colored stripes I've seen. Nice snakes. I like the thick borders on the Miami-phase.

 

[Tula_Montage]

I agree... gorgeous miami and a nice wee normal stripe

 

[Maize411]

Both really nice looking snakes :0)

 

[Susan]

I agree with Dean, sweet little normal stripe and a really nice Miami phase.

 

[Tiras]

Very helpful,
thank you all. you're great.

mikey

 

[Rich Z]

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but isn't it kind of defeating the purpose to "register" something unless you know POSITIVELY what it is you are registering? :shrugs:

 

[crackerhead]

Thanks Rich, I was thinking the exact same thing, but I didn't want to say anything because I figured I was missing something obvious. I thought the ACR no longer registered animals that the owner didn't know the lineage of. I know they started off with an amnesty period, but I thought that was over. I had considered registering my own breeders but although I know morph and most hets I don't always know their parentage. So I figured that shut down my chance of registering. Am I wrong? :shrugs:
Terri

 

[Susan]

I know I was able to register several snakes last year whose exact ancestry was not known (ie...father, mother, etc), but then, it may have been because of the breeder of the snakes...the name SerpenCo goes a long way...

I just checked the registry and this was copied directly from the FAQ:

Q- When will the registry close and stop allowing new stock from wild caught specimens or from unregistered or otherwise unknown parents?
A- There are no plans to close the books, as that would be determental to the whole idea of building an inclusive family tree. Enough new blood is coming in from wild caught animals to justify keeping it open. New genes that pop up in unregistered stock would also be difficult or impossible to trace. There is no good reason to exclude any stock from the registry, so it will remain open indefinitely.

 

[crackerhead]

Thanks for your effort Susan!
I still don't understand how that policy can maintain "pure" stock. For example I have a wild caught female that produces odd looking offspring. I don't sell the animals as pure cornsnakes because I don't know for sure that they are. But according to what you found, I would be perfectly within the bounds of the ACR in registering this female as a WC cornsnake. I like the idea of a registery. I just don't think it works in this case, but I wasn't around when the AKC or many other such organizations got founded either! Thanks again for looking up the rules.
Terri