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New Babies....
- Thread starter MastersHaven
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MastersHaven
*Hopelessly Addicted*
Drizzt80 said:
Hey There D80 ....
nope no blizzards... just the three snows and the rest are like the little one in the photo...
I have done search after search on my progeny predictor to try to figure out
what may have happened with these guys and the only thing that comes
even close to the results that I have is:
Male is, Anerythristic, het charcoal & amel
Female is, Anerythristic het charcoal & amel
which would have given me these results:
4/16 -- Anerythristic, het blizzard
2/16 -- Anerthristic, Charcoal, het Amel
2/16 -- Snow, het charcoal
2/16 -- Anerythristic, het for Carcoal
2/16 -- Anerythristic, het amel
1/16 -- Blizzard, Anerythristic
1/16 -- Anerythristic, Charcoal
1/16 -- Snow
1/16 -- Anerythristic
beings there were only 13 eggs and all but 3 were anery looking and the
three being what look to be snow.... this is the closest I can get to an
explainable result...
photo's of the parents:
first the mother (Amari) , then the father (Dakx)...
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MastersHaven
*Hopelessly Addicted*
oh yeah....
The guy I got them from said that he purchased them as charcoals but couldn't tell me from whom he got them... so the predictions above were based on the idea that they are indeed of charcoal lines...
If not and they are JUST Anery....
the results would be something like:
2/4 -- Anerythristic, het Amel
1/4 -- Snow
1/4 -- Anerythristic
soooooo I am assuming the only way for me to know for sure is to do trial breedings with them... I am going to keep the snows and breed them...
If they produce nothing but snows then I know *no Charcoal* and if they produce Anery types, I will know that they are indeed het for charcoal ???
does that sound right?
The guy I got them from said that he purchased them as charcoals but couldn't tell me from whom he got them... so the predictions above were based on the idea that they are indeed of charcoal lines...
If not and they are JUST Anery....
the results would be something like:
2/4 -- Anerythristic, het Amel
1/4 -- Snow
1/4 -- Anerythristic
soooooo I am assuming the only way for me to know for sure is to do trial breedings with them... I am going to keep the snows and breed them...
If they produce nothing but snows then I know *no Charcoal* and if they produce Anery types, I will know that they are indeed het for charcoal ???
does that sound right?
Serpwidgets
New member
I would say the appearance of snows indicates at minimum that the parents are both het amel, and are carrying one or two anery genes.
If you use the snow offspring, you will not have proven much. The snows could be snows het charcoal for more than one reason... this doesn't prove out the parents' genotypes, because they could be:
-charcoal het anery and anery het charcoal
-anery and anery
-anery and anery het charcoal
-anery het charcoal and anery het charcoal
-charcoal het anery and anery charcoal
The most you would prove by crossing the snows and not getting blizzards is that one snow or the other is *probably* not het charcoal, which then only proves that one or the other of the parents is *probably* not homozygous charcoal. (You'd need to produce about 35 hatchlings from the same pairing, no blizzards, to be 99% certain they are not het and "prove" the above. This would mean several clutches, obviously.)
The best bet is to cross each of the parents to known homozygous charcoals with NO anery in them. If the parent is charcoal, you will get all charcoals. If the parent is an anery, you will get all normals. If the parent is anery het charcoal you will get normals and charcoals. The key here is making sure the anery gene is known not homozygous in any of the resulting hatchlings, so that you know whether you are getting charcoals or not. This will help you narrow down the possibilities more "quickly."
If you use the snow offspring, you will not have proven much. The snows could be snows het charcoal for more than one reason... this doesn't prove out the parents' genotypes, because they could be:
-charcoal het anery and anery het charcoal
-anery and anery
-anery and anery het charcoal
-anery het charcoal and anery het charcoal
-charcoal het anery and anery charcoal
The most you would prove by crossing the snows and not getting blizzards is that one snow or the other is *probably* not het charcoal, which then only proves that one or the other of the parents is *probably* not homozygous charcoal. (You'd need to produce about 35 hatchlings from the same pairing, no blizzards, to be 99% certain they are not het and "prove" the above. This would mean several clutches, obviously.)
The best bet is to cross each of the parents to known homozygous charcoals with NO anery in them. If the parent is charcoal, you will get all charcoals. If the parent is an anery, you will get all normals. If the parent is anery het charcoal you will get normals and charcoals. The key here is making sure the anery gene is known not homozygous in any of the resulting hatchlings, so that you know whether you are getting charcoals or not. This will help you narrow down the possibilities more "quickly."
dionythicus
Kiss My Hearse
I love that baby snow! I've been looking for banded snows and you did it! Gives me hope to make my own in a few years.
MastersHaven
*Hopelessly Addicted*
LOL.... I know -- sweet isn't it?
Pretty much the whole clutch is that way, they get it from the parents so I can't take the credit for it. Where ever this pair origionated are the ones who done all the work, Im just the one who lucked out...
I would think that with select pairing of these hatchlings bred back to each other it would produce an even cleaner looking specimen... I plan on keeping the 3 snows so hopefully something nice will come of them in the future!
Pretty much the whole clutch is that way, they get it from the parents so I can't take the credit for it. Where ever this pair origionated are the ones who done all the work, Im just the one who lucked out...
I would think that with select pairing of these hatchlings bred back to each other it would produce an even cleaner looking specimen... I plan on keeping the 3 snows so hopefully something nice will come of them in the future!
dionythicus said: