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No Snake Yet...

Michael Roth

Mostly Fish
We are going to a reptile show/sale this weekend, going to get a cornsnake. I'm hoping to get some feedback on the tank. It's a ten gallon, with a UTH, flourescent lighting, a blacklight for night viewing, aspen shavings for substrate... basking side is currently 81.7 and humidity is 55%.

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VERY nice, but the water dish MAY be too big...you want it just big enough for the baby to soak in it. That one MAY be a problem if you get a hatchling.
 
Now, is it a matter of just monitoring depth, or is it possible the wee fellow might not be physically able to get in and out?
 
That dish is a little "overkill" but you shouldn't have a problem with a hatchling getting stuck in there. It will come in handy as it grows, plus it doubles as an extra hide. :)
 
Thats ideal then. One hide on the warm side and one on the cool side. Thermoregulation + safety = one happy little snake. I don't think the size of the dish will be a problem. I can't tell how deep it is, but you may want to only keep it filled about 1/2 to 3/4 full.
 
That water dish will work fine as mentioned above, just as an added safety feature I would look at adding a small stone towards the edge of the dish as those bowls become very slippery, especially to a small hatchling. The stone will give it an added "boost" up so it won't get stuck in the water.
 
I agree, that looks fine, waterbowl doubling as a hide too how clever :)

The only thing I might add is that some corns are very secretive especially when they're young and have just been introduced to a new home. A 4-glass-walls vivarium might be a bit scary for it.. You could mount cloth or something along the back/sides, or use those aquarium stylee covers.

Also, check and double check the top. Wee corny will defy gravity looking to escape and you'll want to be mighty sure s/he can't!
 
Very good point Tracee. The tiniest crack spells freedom for young corns. The space that the wire going into the viv is making may be all the little one needs. Some sort of weight on top (like a book maybe) might help with that. Little as they may be, they can be quite strong in their quest for escape, so that will keep it at bay... at least until it gets bigger.

Make sure that for the acclimation period (about 5 days) you place the tank in a low-traffic area. This will give the little one time to adjust to its new home with minimal stress. This also means no handling too. (I know I know... it'll be hard, but it's in your new snake's best interest.) Hatchlings can be easily stressed, as I'm sure you have learned about by now. Any tiny little thing can turn them into a basket case, which can give you a mess of problems.

Have you decided what kind you are looking for yet?
 
I am thinking some foam gasket around the edges will make it a more secure fit for the lid, but definitely a great point. I have read several times, thus a good point to stress is the stress level of the snake. There will be no handling, no peeking, and actually likely a complete covering of the tank to avoid prying eyes for 5 to 7 days.

I have no idea what type of corn to bring home, likely going to take a good long look at everything all have to offer, and then pick the first one we saw :p
 
I say ditch the bowl. You've got a nice viv, nice hide, nice log... and a Saint Bernard bowl. I keep mine in ugly tubs with ugly cardboard hides... but my water bowls are nice. It's all about the water bowls.
 
Nice looking little anery, congratulations on your first corn (of many, many...lol).

Although the dish is not asthetic I also use the dog dishes like that in my containers as they are perfect for doubling as hides as well as water bowls and deep enough for the snake to soak in when it desires. I wish I could come up with a more pleasing looking alternative myself.

About the warm side of your viv. You said you have a UTH and the warm side is about 81 degress. I notice that you have a thermometer on the side of the tank. IF this is where you are getting your 81 degrees from than you are getting ambiant air temps and NOT what the baby will be sleeping in. I strongly suggest that you take the temperature in the substrate under the warm hide. That is where you want to make sure the temp is about 80 or so. Many people don't realize that the ambiant air temps may be correct but the temps in the substrate under the hide is in the 90's and above. If that is the case then either two things will happen. The snake will opt for staying always in the cold hide or will want to be warm and try to stay for a time in the warm one, and either way, when the little one has a full belly, if it sleeps in too cold or too hot temps a regurge is most likely going to happen. A regurge is something you want to avoid at all costs.

IF you were talking about the temps being 81 in the substrate, then I apologize for the long winded advice.

Good luck and have fun!! :)
 
There is no need to apologise for anything, the whole reason for me posting this thread is to get advice. :) The probe for the thermometer is buried in the aspen shavings on the warm side, which has balanced at 83 degrees. The sticker thermometer on the cool side of the tank, the bowl side, reads 73 degrees, which I would imagine is ambient air temperature. Interestingly enough, with the addition of the water to the bowl, the humidity is still only at 55%
 
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