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Oldest Mesoamerican Pyramid Tomb Found

vetusvates

vetusvates

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I have an exam which will include Mesoamerican ritual and beliefs next week - I might just be able to work this in. Thanks so much for posting! Nothing I like better than making a lecturer go look stuff up!

To me, 2700 years ago is a long time.
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I guess it's a matter of perspective. I'm specialising in British prehistory, so as far as I'm concerned, "proper" history doesn't even start until two thousand years ago when the Romans arrived. Anything after AD1066 (Norman invasion) is just current events...
 
vetusvates said:
To me, 2700 years ago is a long time. I can only try to imagine how pristine the Americas looked before Europeans landed, and before the word "America'.
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You should look up some of the Native American dates when they crossed the land bridge between Russia and Alaska. Some of those date can go back 16,000 +/- years and is called the Paleo Indian Period.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_chronology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clovis_culture

I love studying and collecting Native American Indian artifacts and field hunting them.
 
bitsy said:
I guess it's a matter of perspective. I'm specialising in British prehistory, so as far as I'm concerned, "proper" history doesn't even start until two thousand years ago when the Romans arrived. Anything after AD1066 (Norman invasion) is just current events...
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I love Roman History and what is funny is My family basically started back during those "current events" lol... My father was somehow able to trace our lineage back to Celts.. I don't know how, and our ancestors were known for their blonde hair and blue eyes back in the days of the Feudal system.

Needless to say I love European History, never been to keen on American History though... But I do say that new find is awesome!
 
CrousesCorns said:
You should look up some of the Native American dates when they crossed the land bridge between Russia and Alaska. Some of those date can go back 16,000 +/- years and is called the Paleo Indian Period.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_chronology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clovis_culture

I love studying and collecting Native American Indian artifacts and field hunting them.
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Michael, I went to grades 1-6 in Barlow, Kentucky. Near where the Ohio and Mississippi rivers intersect. There are many mounds mapped (and unmapped) in that part of the country. Me and my buddies used to go down to a couple of mounds in soy bean fields in the Ohio river bottoms and we collected all sorts of artifacts.

Also, I have relatives from extreme north east Louisiana, near "Poverty Point", another famous ancient site. (Circa 1650-700 BCE.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_Point
http://www.nps.gov/popo/index.htm
 
There is a place out here called Three Rivers Petroglyphs, You would love to see those things, they are freaking awesome.
 
I am guessing that you know they can be very valuable depending on the shape and condition? Always a good thing to have tucked away since they gain value over time like most things.
 
Hmmm...I never really thought about it.

You know, right across the river there is a "Mound City, Illinois", that is a small town, and a "Mounds, Illinois" both named because of so many mounds in the area.
 
From what my family told me when I was a kid, it is illegal to dig the mounds in Louisiana too, due to it being burial mounds and therefore sacred ground. Basically its grave robbing...

That's what I was told, I never looked into it though.
 
CrousesCorns said:
Not sure how it is in LA, but here in NC you can only do surface hunting. Any and ALL digging in strictly ILLEGAL!!!
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Yeah, I know it is very very strict at Poverty Point, in Louisiana.

In Kentucky, back in the early 1970's, we just picked up what was plowed up and/or washed off by the rain in the Ohio river bottom.
We climbed to the top of the mound....but would not have dreamed of digging on/into it. Even as kids, it just didn't seem right.
 
vetusvates said:
Yeah, I know it is very very strict at Poverty Point, in Louisiana.

In Kentucky, back in the early 1970's, we just picked up what was plowed up and/or washed off by the rain in the Ohio river bottom.
We climbed to the top of the mound....but would not have dreamed of digging on/into it. Even as kids, it just didn't seem right.
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You may know my 2nd cousin who lives up in Kentucky then. He used to do the same thing with friends when he was younger. I can't remember his last name but his first is Stanley.
 
That is really interesting Eric, thanks for posting that. In Utah we have a lot of Anasasi (sp) Indian ruins. If you are on federal land it is illegal to pick up an arrow head. 70% of Utah is owned by the federal government. I had an employee who was digging up pottery. They had agents here in my office and took him away. He spent a couple of years in jail.
 
Wow, Wade. I have hiked numerous canyons to pueblos (some mapped, some not) in the four corners area. Kind of an irregular circle including Durango, CO and Moab, UT. I think I have mentioned that before.
Even then, the early 1980's, I'm sure there was very little left laying on top of the ground.
 
There is still quite a lot on the ground. I see pottery almost every time I go out, just broken shards but you can see that it is pottery. I am told you can find whole pots if you dig. I find a half dozen arrow heads every summer and I don't go out looking for them, just what I pick up while hunting or fishing. The Bureau of Land Management watches for people doing any real looking. It would make me very nervous.
 
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