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Online Shipping Petition To USPS

Theobald Brooks

Newbie (site not hobby)
I felt a little silly doing this but I suppose I've done sillier stuff before.

Can't hurt to show them there is an interest, right?

It just seems silly that all the money we waste shipping with FedEx when USPS could so the same thing for half the price if they would allow it.

Sign it if you like or if you can think of better wording or anything to add feel free to let me know.

http://www.change.org/petitions/uni...via-express-mail-3?share_id=OmgSzPvlxI&pe=pce
 
USPS might be cheaper, but would they be as good? They don't have a very good record around my house, nor with anyone else I've spoken to. If they can't deliver the regular mail properly or on time, what makes you think they can do a live snake any better? I actually foresee even more problems as there are far more carriers, most of whom are just a hair this side of competent, who will throw a big stink because "OH NO!! It's a SNAKE!!!" Not that FedEx is perfect, but they at least not only come up my driveway (UPS refuses, they leave everything 300 feet down to the end of my driveway next to my garbage cans and USPS has never been to my door either), they will knock on my door and actually wait for a reply.
 
Thanks. Do I owe you any editing fees now or we just wanna start a tab? (I'll probably need it.) LoL
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USPS might be cheaper, but would they be as good? They don't have a very good record around my house, nor with anyone else I've spoken to. If they can't deliver the regular mail properly or on time, what makes you think they can do a live snake any better? I actually foresee even more problems as there are far more carriers, most of whom are just a hair this side of competent, who will throw a big stink because "OH NO!! It's a SNAKE!!!" Not that FedEx is perfect, but they at least not only come up my driveway (UPS refuses, they leave everything 300 feet down to the end of my driveway next to my garbage cans and USPS has never been to my door either), they will knock on my door and actually wait for a reply.

I've had way less problems shipping and receiving fish via USPS than I've had with UPS and FedEx over the years. I really don't think the carriers care what's in the box.

Another plus to USPS is that they offer free pickup and you can pay and request everything online very easily and they take paypal to boot.
 
I've had much better success with USPS. Fedex has been known to leave signature required packages at my front door when noone was home. Not the case with USPS. USPS tends to leave my package at the clubhouse, signed in with a manager. :D
 
I have never had one single issue with USPS for anything I have ever shipped or received. They have low rates, low insurance costs, free delivery confirmation and they are much easier to use than the other two. It's easy to file an insurance claim if you need to do so and they don't hassle you about it. In addition to the fact they will just come get your package at your door if you do need to go to the office they have them easily accessible. There is one UPS hub here and they are only open from 3-5pm and there is no Fedex hub anywhere nearby.

I do Ebay a lot and I ship everything via USPS because the others are just too costly and not user friendly.
 
Just an example for rate difference.

A 2lb package from my door to zip 78641 costs $79.54 with shipyourreptiles.com but the same exact package shipped with USPS Express and paid online would cost $31.61 and that is with insurance and signature.

Heck of a difference IMO.
 
If USPS allowed snakes, I would probably use them, but request it be held at the P.O. (General Delivery, I think?) for the recipient to pick up. I think it would be pretty safe that way, especially if the weather is not severe.
 
I would love USPS to ship snakes.... And since they are struggling financially, I think it would be a smart move for them.
 
It certainly would. At 30 bucks a pop even if there are only 100 snakes shipped a day over the entire country that would give them an additional $1,000,000 a year in revenue. No brainer IMO.
 
My girlfriend worked in a mail center and has many horror stories about the usps. They damaged way more packages than fedex and ups combined, and never honored their insurance policies. Their insurance program is a scam. Take it for what it's worth....
 
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I worked for USPS. I feel that they are a very good carrier, and safe. I betcha they are careful with live bees!

I don't believe that they damage more packages. I wonder whereinformation is available on that.
 
I have had more packages come damaged from UPS than any other carrier. FedEx is definitely the best but they are also extremely expensive. Look at it this way, if you are having a snake shipped via an express service and you have packaged it properly even if the box was rattled around the snake would be safe because of your proper packing techniques. We all still eat at fast food places but I guarantee every single one of us knows someone that has worked at one that's told stories of food being spit in or worse, right?

Plus for right now they still even offer Saturday delivery. Another option that trumps the other two.

Personally, I'd be willing to put a package in their hands for a third of the price that FedEx charges every single time.

As far as their insurance being a scam, I will have to disagree. I shipped a $400 guitar to New Mexico a few years ago. During transit something sharp penetrated the box and put a nice gouge in the body. I had purchased insurance and they gave him the option of paying him the amount that I had insured the guitar for if he surrendered the guitar to them or pay that much on the repairs if he wanted to keep the guitar. He wanted to keep it, got an estimate and they payed him with no problems at all.
 
I have several years of combined experience in two different mail and packaging centers, as well as working several unrelated positions where I was in charge of the mail and shipping. In both of the two different mail and packaging centers that I worked in, we carried Fedex, UPS, and USPS (the post office). I had constant interaction with all three, as I was the one who had to to get on the phone with said shipping companies to "handle business" when there was a problem. (I will say that it has, however, been a few years since I worked in a mail center, so maybe it has changed some. I can't really say with certainty either way, although I suspect from my recent, albeit much more infrequent interactions with these companies that it hasn't- much.) So please take what I am about to say with as big a grain of salt as you'd like, as it is from my own experience (which is all I can speak to).

Fedex is the most reliable (timely), least likely to damage a package, and quickest and easiest to settle a claim if necessary. The overnight service is the most reliable by far of the three. It is also the most expensive.

UPS (United Parcel Service, NOT the post office) Is more affordable than Fedex, and far more reliable than the post office as far as delivery dates/times, and not damaging packages. They do not currently allow delivery of snakes to my understanding though, so, moving along…

With the post office, we constantly had packages turn up missing or destroyed regardless of signature delivery, registered mail, insurance, etc.
Also, we were told by the post office on numerous occasions that their Express service (next day) is not guaranteed, and MANY of these higher priced packages would arrive a day, or sometimes DAYS late. (I see on their website, the Express service says "money back guarantee", but also has a footnote saying "some restrictions apply," so who knows? The link to that page is here: https://www.usps.com/ship/service-chart.htm)

I could go into difficulty of filing an insurance claim, and lack of satisfactory customer service (availability and quality), but I think this is less important than the actual likelihood that your snake will arrive alive and on time.

So to sum up: we were CONSTANTLY dealing with DAMAGED or LOST packages from the post office, most all of which we could do nothing about. We RARELY had to deal with this from specialized shipping companies.

I just wanted to throw out there that this may all be irrelevant, because I would imagine USPS would be remiss to take on the added logistical, financial and legal accountability that would be required for shipping reptiles (especially without increasing the prices).

If there’s one thing I learned from the shipping business, it’s that people's feelings and convictions about the post office run deep. I am not trying to offend anyone, or slight USPS in any way, it is a huuuuge organization, and I do respect what they do, and in many ways, what they represent to our country. I use them all the time for my basic mailing needs. I just simply feel that specialized shipping involving live animals should be done through a company whose focus is specialized shipping!

Theo- Please don't take this the wrong way, but I would not be comforted much by receiving the insurance money promptly if my snake had been impaled by a sharp object in transit! LOL No but seriously, I am not saying the post office NEVER pays people, just that in comparison to specialized shipping they fall very short...
 
Thanks for the info.

Theo- Please don't take this the wrong way, but I would not be comforted much by receiving the insurance money promptly if my snake had been impaled by a sharp object in transit! LOL No but seriously, I am not saying the post office NEVER pays people, just that in comparison to specialized shipping they fall very short...

No worries. I understand exactly what you're saying there. Like I said in the original post it's probably silly but I didn't have much else better to do this morning. LOL It just seems to me that as big of an industry herps actually are there should be a better way to ship a $35 snake than for someone to have to pay $90 to do it.

My main issue is that USPS will ship a baby caiman or a frog but won't ship a baby corn snake? Makes absolutely no sense at all.

An as far as reliability goes... once when I was waiting on a live fish order to come I saw the UPS truck it was on drive right past my house with my package on the truck and their explanation when I finally tracked it down at the hub hours later that the package was a little damp so they were going to claim it as damaged. Shouldn't that be at the discretion of the intended recipient instead of some guy in a brown suit in a brown truck?

I am not knocking FedEx at all. They are a great shipping company but just ridiculously overpriced for the purposes of shipping a 1lb box. I also have some issue about it having to be done overnight. If fish can make it being sloshed around in a bag via USPS Priority in 3 days or 14" 2lb Flowerhorns make it all the way from Thailand and be fine then snakes would be fine that way too.

If my little runt can handle me cramming three pieces of cut up pinkie down her throat twice a week and be fine then a healthy snake will be fine in a box for 2 or 3 days when the weather isn't extreme. Heck, mine stay in their box for twice or three times that most of the time and wouldn't have it any other way! :noevil:
 
Just my two cents, I used to use the usps to ship chickens across the country for me. They were the most unreliable means of shipping available. They used to guarantee delivery by a certain time or shipping was free. They had to refund a lot of money so they stopped it. It was not unusual for a box to sit in Jacksonville for three days before they said "oh here is a package with live things in it" and finish shipping it. Or I would be on the phone for two days trying to find a lost package. I understand and know that no one company is completely reliable but I would rather pay the extra to fedex and know for the most part my shipments are going to arrive when they are supposed to. Good luck with it.
 
I thought there was a law that banned the shipping of live snakes via USPS. If that's the case then we might have to get the law makers involved and pass a new bill. It might have so momentum if it could create some jobs along the way.
 
at least you guys have UPS and FedEx...Canada has nothing! only air shipping which is terribly inconvenient as YVR is a 4 hour round trip for me.

it does seem silly to me that it's so difficult to ship reptiles.
 
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