Orange checker belly

[dakota11]

Just wondering I have an Aztec looking juvenile corn normal coloring there is to much black on top to be hypo but the belly checkers are orangish no black. Is that normal for a regular corn?

 

[Shiari]

Pictures? I have a really dark "mockley" hypo who has a lot of brown pigment on top.

 

[Susan]

Hypos have such a wide range of coloration that ruling it out based solely on the amount of black dorsally without breeding trials might fool you. And I have also seen (and own) several known non-homo hypos that have orange/red belly checks, but there is at least some black ventrally.

 

[dakota11]

i think ive attached a couple pictures

 

[Susan]

Looks like it very well could be a hypo, possibly het caramel and/or perhaps has some Upper Keys lineage.

 

[RosieSnake]

that is so weird! maybe its a cross breed?

 

[dakota11]

She was sold as normal. The pattern to me is either terrazzo or Aztec I think? But never thought she could be a cross i hope not. I have a sunglow,, normal motley and snow males. Was going to breed to the normal motley but mabe it could be interesting if I breed her to something else if she ever grows, had some feeding issues when I first got her, but now eating like a champ.

 

[RosieSnake]

ohh, well if shes eating now theres really nothing to worry about. im guessing you just got lucky

 

[Susan]

Just for comparison, this is a hypo Upper Keys phase het caramel anery. Definitely some similarities. Maybe yours is a result of an outcross breeding and was one that didn't quite make the grade to be a keeper Upper Keys phase. The aztec markings might also be a clue, possibly het lavender as that pattern is very common in lavenders. I can definitely see this as a non-keeper from a lavender/hypo lavender Upper Keys phase project. Walter...your opinion as it sounds like a project you would have in the back room?

 

[Pasodama]

She was sold as normal. The pattern to me is either terrazzo or Aztec I think? But never thought she could be a cross i hope not.

I don't see any reason to think that she is a cross.

Her pattern is "Aztec".
There are plenty of Corns with the Aztec pattern.
As Susan mentions, it is rather common with Lavenders. However, Classics, and other morphs, (without Lavender influence) can have Aztec patterning as well.

It looks like your girl could be Hypo. Although, with her looks, it is also possible that she could have other influences instead.
There are Classics/Normals (with orange belly checks, &/or reduced black, etc.), out there, that can look Hypo but are not Hypo.
If you truly want to know, test breeding would be your best option.

BTW She is a pretty girl.

 

[DMong]

hmmmm,......impossible to really conclude much with those two very small pics, but I will say for certain that it is a very gorgeous snake. It definitely isn't a Terrazzo though, but it very well could be a hypo or have upper keys (Rosy ratsnake) once known as Elaphe guttata rosacea) lineage from what I see in it's outward phenotype.

As a matter of fact, the keys corn is what originated the "Terrazzo's", and some were kept in true form and some have had Miami corn introduced into the mix and were coined "granite" corns. Who the heck knows what exactly is what in many now days, but they started out as alleged pure locality keys corns, and their phenotype corresponded to them being just that....very light muted, some almost completely patternless pink/orangish snakes with gray highlights from refined line breeding.

Anyway, I would call that look an "Aztec" something for sure..



~Doug

 

[dakota11]

Thank you all for the info and replies, she is a mystery snake lol, I guess it will be interesting once she is big enough to breed now the question will be normal motly, or sunflower mabe I'll get some very interesting pink babies, joking bout the pink but looking forward to the future

 

[RosieSnake]

i love your corn shes soo pretty!

 

[Nanci]

My first thought was Keys-ish looking. Very pretty!!