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Pattern/Color Mutations

Chris Steele

Chris Steele

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What are some line bred morphs in cornsnakes are there any?

I understand how amel, anery, hypo, etc. genetics work, but what about blood, stripe, motley, etc. Could someone please help me out? Thanks!
 
There are a few line bred traits that stand out in my mind as not being genetic.

Candycanes (line-bred to enhance white background color)
Okeetee Phase (line-bred to enhance borders, background & saddle richness)
Sunglow (line-bred to reduce white)
...just to name a few

But as far as bloodred, stripe, and motley...those are all genetic traits.
 
Ok, I understand that stripe and motley are co-dominant. Is amel also? What is co-dominant? What is bloodred? Anery, Hypo, Lavender are all recessive right?
 
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Motley and stripe are not dominant to their wild-type allele. Wild-type is dominant to motley, and motley is dominant to stripe. (Stripe is recessive to wild-type.)

Amel is recessive to wild-type, and codominant to ultra.

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The diffusion mutant is generally codominant to its wild-type allele, as some of its effects can be seen in hets. :)

If you breed bloodreds to all different kinds of normals and then breed those normal F1s randomly to each other, what you will get is the diffused pattern returning in the F2, but not necessarily the "bloodred" morph. This would be akin to crossing a reverse okeetee to all kinds of normals and then recovering amels in the F2. Some of them might be reverse okeetees, but many of them will just be amels.

This indicates that the difference between amel and reverse okeetee is selective breeding. In the same way, bloodred is a selectively bred variation of diffused corns. The difference is that bloodreds were discovered before the diffusion gene was recognized as a simple pattern trait, so the whole look was lumped under the category "bloodred" for a long time. ;)
 
and to add...

That is why Serp refers to "diffuse" instead of what we know as "bloodreds."
 
Jynx said:
That is why Serp refers to "diffuse" instead of what we know as "bloodreds."
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I prefer "diffused" when talking about the "" ""bloodred"" "" gene being used with other color morphs. It just doesn't make sense to call a Plasma(for lack of another good name) a LavenderBloodred. It doesn't look "" ""bloodred"" "" to me. So, without name as of yet, I would rather call it a DiffusedLavender.

Same goes with DiffAnery and DiffGhost etc.
 
Heh, yeah, it's not that I don't use the word bloodred at all, I'm just selective about it:

This snake is NOT a bloodred, but simply a diffused corn. Her saddles are orange, her ground color is dark tan. She has no "blood" or "red" color on her.
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Also, in combos with erythrin-removing traits, just like Chewbacca living on Endor, it does not make sense... There's nothing blood (or red) about this snake. ;)
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Now THIS is a bloodred corn! Woooowooo!
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showpost.php?p=168399&postcount=4

Now if you get it in combos with motley, stripe, hypo, (and soon lava, sunkissed, ultra, etc) and they're ridiculously red like this, then I would also happily call those snakes "bloodreds." But personally, I think it totally devalues the truly red snakes to call all the other blah and/or non-red stuff "bloodred," and it loses an important distinction. :)
 
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