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Phanto, pewter, sunglow, snow, kastanie ??and others

René-reptileaddict

René-reptileaddict

Klootviool.
got myself a new camera the olympus E-500 so hope you like the first pictures.

Enjoy

Butter and caramel from Robin H.

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Phantom en pewter.

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Rene'... Kastanie ?? Not sure what you meant by that.. Kasatchie I can assume.. The last pair look like rootbeers... Emoryi X Corn .. The head pattern seems to look Emoryi like..

I have to agree , the pewters are sure nice looking.. :cheers:

Regards.. Tim of T and J
 
I think that Kastanie is a name for a type of corn they have developed in Europe and is genetically in question (not sure if its been established as a morph or not), but it isn't a Kisatchie. I'm pretty sure it refers to the Chestnut morph. I could be mistaken.
 
Menhir said:
You are damn right and - no question on the genetics, recessive trait.
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Do you mean I was right that's its the same as a chestnut or I was wrong and it's not the same as a chestnut?
 
One should state that chestnut is the same as Kastanie, cause Kastanie was the first (german) name of the new trait and was just translated into english. But you are right, actually the same gene was meant.
 
Great looking snakes! That pewter is something special. BTW - great camera. I got an Olympus too and they take smokin macros and yours are a prime example.
 
Thnx for the great replys

@ Snakexperience
I really dont know but i will know soon. :)

@ TandJ
There was a discusion going on about these two in the The Cultivars (morphs)/Genetics Issues forum. So that is why i did type kastanie??
 
I don't care if it's called a Chestnut or Kistanie... IT'S a beautiful snake and would love to get my hands on one!.....lol. The others are beautiful also.
 
Hi,

Kastanie is the name of the morph. It first happens in germany. It is a "brand new" morph. The amelanistic form is called mandarin. There was another form called mandarin but they are rumors about hybrids so these name is not used anymore for these animals.

Pics and text about the origin of Kastanie:

http://kornnatter.de/cornpedia-op-content-tid-141.html

and mandarin:

http://kornnatter.de/cornpedia-op-content-tid-79.html

you can click on the button "english version" at the end of the text for a translation.
 
To bad the pictures are so small, its hard to distinguish these guys from rootbeers, creamsicles or what ever it is.. Beats me though, if they seem to be something new, they might be..

To me, this gal looks very similair to the normal looking critter posted.. To bad I only have the head shot, as her belly pattern looks similair to females belly posted too.. Believe me, it is not an attempt to to disregard or slam the Europeon efforts to the hobby, just that there are some unseemingly unanswered questions..

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Regards.. Tim of T and J
 
Here was the breedings that were listed on that site..

1. Mandarin X Butter, Result: 9 normal amelanistic
2. Kastanie het. Mandarin X Mandarin, Result 11 Kastanie / 6 Mandarins
3. Kastanie X Hypomelanistic het. Amelanistic, Result: : 3 Classics / 3 normal Amels
4. Mandarin X Mandarin, Result: 100% Mandarins

I am not at all suprised with what the clutchs have produced.. Essentially pointing that the Madarin seems to be an amel.. If anything the results are pretty close to what could be expected with the amel gene..

Regards.. Tim of T and J
 
TandJ said:
Believe me, it is not an attempt to to disregard or slam the Europeon efforts to the hobby, just that there are some unseemingly unanswered questions.
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Why don't you first of all have a look at the threads in the genetics section before stating that there are unanswered questions? I think they may be unanswered for you, but definetly not in general.

You bring Emoryi and other "maybe" crossings into the game, but how would you explain a clutch containing normals and kastanie animals? Impossible in a case where hybridization is the reason for the different look. I also haven't seen any Emoryi that hatches being nearly indistingushable from an Anerythristic animal ending in an animal, that contains more red than any Emoryi I know.

Maybe "we" Europeans don't have that much of commercials in our pictures, but we "may" know a few things about genetics.

Greetings
Michael from Michael & Daniel, Kornnatterlexikon.de
 
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