Please Identify

[rolandslf]

I was given this snake. I think it is some type of Rat Snake, most likely a Black Rat Snake Morph.
I am sorry about the picture quality, I will take more this weekend and post on Monday.

 

[Calift]

could it be a white pine?

 

[rolandslf]

This was my thought initially, the head is Rat Snakeish to me though.
If it is a White Pine, I am super chuffed because there are'nt too many Pine Snakes here in South Africa.
Maybe, better photos on Monday will help with the identification process.

 

[Outcast]

Looks like a Pituophis to me. I thought rat snakes have longer heads. That one looks more stocky.

 

[vetusvates]

Despite being rather overweight, which would make the head look 'stocky', looks like I see the rat snake angle where the ventral scales make a 90º angle at their outer edges.
I see an elaphid, IMHO.

EDIT : and by "elaphid" I mean a "Family Colubridae, Genus Elaphe"-like snake.
An informal term, used similarly to "natricine" to loosely describe a group of phylogenetically related snakes with common characteristics.
As opposed to the elapids of "Family Elapidae", the mamba, krait, coral, cobra group.

 

[Snakewhisperer]

I see a Colubrid...

 

[Outcast]

Despite being rather overweight, which would make the head look 'stocky', looks like I see the rat snake angle where the ventral scales make a 90º angle at their outer edges.
I see an elaphid, IMHO.

EDIT : and by "elaphid" I mean a "Family Colubridae, Genus Elaphe"-like snake.
An informal term, used similarly to "natricine" to loosely describe a group of phylogenetically related snakes with common characteristics.
As opposed to the elapids of "Family Elapidae", the mamba, krait, coral, cobra group.

I can see that. It could be an over weight ratsnake.

 

[CrazyCorn]

Looks like an overweight amel king/rat cross to me.

 

[rolandslf]

Interestingly as a side note. She is in the blue at the moment.
Yesterday I put her in with my Albino Black rat male and he was all over her almost immediately. I took her out before anything happened until she has shed at which time I will put her back with him.

I am now leaning more to perhaps her being an Albino Black Rat. She doe have red eyes as well.

 

[rolandslf]

Ok, here are some updated pics.
Not much better, but they should help more.
And yes, she is definitely overweight.

 

[Outcast]

Is that light play or does she really look that tan?

 

[SnakeAround]

This is what I found to be the closest in look:

An albino black ratsnake.

 

[SnakeAround]

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[SnakeAround]

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[rolandslf]

No lightplay involved there, she is that tan, I expect her to lighten up a bit more after the shed.

Thank You for the pic, she is definitely an Albino Black Rat as I initially suspected. No wonder my Albino Black rat male was all over her like stink on a blanket.

Thanks All.