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regurge??

slippery

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the first feed i gave my new corn, pics on other thread, was a small mouse just got to the size where it got some speed to it, i think it was too big however as it is 40 hours later and there is still a bulge about 1/3 the way down, however last night she did go to the bathroom, so i would assume everything is fine, is their anyways they can die from eating prey too big??
 
sorry also, being 2 days since she has eaten, (the bulge is still there) would it be ok to handle her? i have totally left her alone and havent even touched the cage, i think i am being alot more anal then i have to, im scared to touch the snake because i dont want her to puke or get hurt, anyways i am sure i am overreacting, i geuss i am just wondering is handleing her 2 or 3 times a day for 20 mins- 30 mins ok?? thanks alot
 
slippery said:
i think i am being alot more anal then i have to, im scared to touch the snake because i dont want her to puke or get hurt, anyways i am sure i am overreacting
lol...I can't offer you any advice on your situation because I don't have that much experience yet, but I know what you mean by this comment... I'm trying to make myself stop being that way at the moment too!
 
If your snake has held it down for 2 days...I wouldn't worry...
A good rule of thumb is wait about 48 hours after feeding to handle your snake...if it does still have a lump from it's prey...minimal handling would probably be best...but is allowable...depending on the particular animal and how it reacts to being handled.

If the snake doesn't stress out...and is comfortable being handled...you could probably handle it for longer periods...or more often...after 48 hours...if it is still jumpy when being handled...I would wait until the lump has digested before long periods or frequent handling.
 
thanks alias thats reassuring! yeah the lump is definatley smaller but still very visable so ill give him another day, im gonna change his newspaper so ill see how he reacts, im definatley feeing him smaller prey next time, because isnt the lump supposed to be gone in 24 hours???
 
Derek, I'm not trying to say your info is wrong...so please do not take it this way. You are very right on the 48 hr. rule of thumb about holding a snake after a feeding. But I would say NOT to handle the snake even after 48 hrs if the snake is still showing signs of food in its belly. As long as there is a sizable amount of food in the belly that has not been digested, it can still regurge if handled. And I say this from first hand experience not hear say. A couple times I had had a snake eat a fairly good sized food prey and waited the required 48 hrs. but noticed they still had a lump in their bellies. The first time was a short picture taking episode and resulted in no problems. The second time, with a different snake, I held the snake for only a short time and a couple hours later i found it had regurged what was left of its food.

So, I definitely suggest that if a lump can still be seen in the snakes belly that handling be held off to be on the safe side.

The food still not being digested can be from the fact of having a larger than normal prey item but could also be from temps too cool for proper digestion, so make sure you check the temps on the warm side of the viv to be sure it is around 82 degrees. :)
 
Every rule has its thorns

Yep, if you can still see the lump, the food is still sitting in the belly. I second Dianne's recommendation of waiting a few extra days as a precaution.

Remember that snake husbandry is more art than science and there are exceptions to every rule. ;)
 
thanks alot and yeah my cage is always at almost exactley 84 degress and at night it is 81 degrees thanks alot guys
 
gardenmum said:
Derek, I'm not trying to say your info is wrong...so please do not take it this way. You are very right on the 48 hr. rule of thumb about holding a snake after a feeding. But I would say NOT to handle the snake even after 48 hrs if the snake is still showing signs of food in its belly. As long as there is a sizable amount of food in the belly that has not been digested, it can still regurge if handled. And I say this from first hand experience not hear say. A couple times I had had a snake eat a fairly good sized food prey and waited the required 48 hrs. but noticed they still had a lump in their bellies. The first time was a short picture taking episode and resulted in no problems. The second time, with a different snake, I held the snake for only a short time and a couple hours later i found it had regurged what was left of its food.

So, I definitely suggest that if a lump can still be seen in the snakes belly that handling be held off to be on the safe side.

The food still not being digested can be from the fact of having a larger than normal prey item but could also be from temps too cool for proper digestion, so make sure you check the temps on the warm side of the viv to be sure it is around 82 degrees. :)

I definitely agree...and was very unclear in what I was saying...
I have animals that I can handle while they are still digesting (after 48 hours, of course)...but these are animals that are handled very frequently and don't have any stress response to being handled whatsoever...
I definitely do NOT handle any of my hatchlings until they have completely digested...or any of the larger animals that are still jumpy when handled...I should have done a better job of translating my thoughts into text...
 
slippery said:
thanks alot and yeah my cage is always at almost exactley 84 degress and at night it is 81 degrees thanks alot guys
I'm assuming there is a cooler retreat from those temps? I would think that constant 81 to 84 degrees would be be less than ideal.
 
thanks alot guys, you guys are making it so i dont have to make mistakes this is great!!! yeah she had a poop last night and the bulge is almost gone, i am going to feed her smaller prey next time... or maybe something that size again, and just feed her every 8 days or so..... i should probably get on the 5 day feeding program with smaller food though eh??
 
mbdorfer i check today and i have one hide spot where it is about 76 degrees during the day and im assuming (i'll check tonight) that it would be about a 3 degree drop.
 
slippery said:
mbdorfer i check today and i have one hide spot where it is about 76 degrees during the day and im assuming (i'll check tonight) that it would be about a 3 degree drop.
That sounds better
 
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