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regurged or feces?

behavis

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Hello everyone I'm new to this forum and new to keeping corns or any kind of snake for that matter.
I've got a young corn snake since about a month now and she's been feeding well and everthing. But now today I found this "thing" in the vivarium of which I'm not sure wether is poo or a regurgitated mouse. My guess is the second but I wanted to be sure. Anyway I'll post a picture and I hope you guys can tell me for sure what I'm dealing with here...

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I fed my snake last sunday and tried to handle her yesterday evening, so that's four days feeding. So I do think her meal should have been digested by this time...
 
That's puked up mouse, sorry to say. Looks like it was kept down for a while first, too. Definitely don't try to feed again for 10 days, and feed a meal about 1/3 the size of normal next couple meals. Check temps, that's almost always the problem.
 
Definitely a regurge. Watch your snake for signs of going blue. Skip her next scheduled meal, of course, but don't feed until after she sheds, if she is indeed blue now.
 
Thanks for all the help, now at least I'm sure about what's wrong ;-)
I've been feeding her small pinkies before. For now I'll wait a day or 10 before I try to feed her again. And I'll keep an eye out if she's getting ready to shed.
 
I've also had a close look on Kathy's guidelines and there she says to make sure to leave your snake alone with no handeling after the first few feeds after the regurg. Should I then feed my snake in it's viv? Because before I would take her out in a seperate tank without any substrate to make sure she doesn't digest any aspen... I think I'll folow her adivise on cutting the pinkie in half for her next feed. What do you guys think would be best?

Also I've again monitored the temps closely, as far as I know it should be fine but I'll post em so guys can have a look as well ;-)

In her shelter on the warm side (half of it is placed directly over the heat mat) so this gives during the day 80 to 87 and during the night 75 to 84.
The shelter on the cool side has around 70 during the night and around 75-77 during the day. The rest of the tank has about the same temps only at night the shelter are a bit warmer. During the day there's also a basking light so that would make it around 82-84 on the warm side. And a bit higher on the wooden branch will be around 89.
 
No, it's okay to move the snake to a feeding bin. Cutting in half is a good idea. You can cut the pink while frozen and keep the other hal for next time.
 
Hi all, It's been a week now since I've fed my corn a tiny pinkie with it's head cut of... So far she hasn't regurged her meal. Should I feed her again today or wait just a few more days to make sure. She's still pretty calm, normally when it's been a few days after her feed, and she's getting hungry again she will be very active in the late evening and early night...
 
You can feed every five days. I'd stick to partial pinks, or very tiny whole pinks, until you are sure she's going to keep things down.
 
Day before yesterday I tried to give her a feed, a larger pinkie but cut in half. She started working it down but then when I checked on her like 20min later she had turned away from the pinkie. So I thought maybe it was slightly to big and I tried to feed a her half of a tiny pinkie but she wasn't going for it... I gues I will wait for a day or 2 before I try again?
Another thing I was wondering, I've had her since around the 20th of september and she still hasn't shed since and she doesn't seem to have the signs that she's about to...
Is this something I should be worried about???

Anyways I realised I haven't posted any pictures of her yet...

http://i.imgur.com/Kuut2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BxKP6.jpg

This last one was taken yesterday. She doesn't seem to be getting skinny to me, anyways she kept her last meal down like a Pro so ;-)
http://i.imgur.com/0M1sA.jpg
Probably just a worried parent I guess :)
 
Well she isn't hiding, most of the time she's either laying wrapped around the plastic plant on or it's leaves on the cool side, or around the wooden branch on the warm side. But hardly I spot her in her hiding places, much less than when I first got her actually. But since her last feed she hasn't been SO active. But I guess that might be because back then I kept her without a meal for 10 days because of the regurge.
Before I did notice that by the time she got ready for a feed she would be much more active around the evening and early night
 
It's with a feeling of deep sadness that my beloved Agness has left this world. When I woke up today I found her laying about on one of her favourite spots but she was no longer with us...
As I picked her up to place her on a small piece of cloth I discovered something on the underside of her belly which I had never noticed. An area which is colored greenish, a most distressing sight but I'm sure an explanation for her death.
I'll post a picture along and hopefully someone can tell me what was wrong her...

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I want to thank all of you for your help and advice.

Best regards,
Nick
 
I'm very sorry you lost your corn. I hope you don't let this discourage you, they can make hardy, wonderful pets. Babies are a bit fragile, and some are much stronger than others. I wish we could tell you anything from your photo, but when a baby corn dies, you can see it's gall bladder though it's body, that green spot is evident on all deceased baby snakes.
 
thanks guys, I didn't know about the gall bladder though. I just thought it was like an infection or something.
But I did enjoy caring for my snake alot, I just hope it wasn't anything I did wrong...
 
Oh no...I'm so sorry for your loss. As Chip says, please don't let this put you off. Some babies just don't have everything right with their inner workings, and get sent off before the defect causes any trouble.

I'd suggest a slightly older hatchling, or even a sub-adult or adult next time, just to give you a feeling of security.
 
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