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Regurgitating!!

sega

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Hi i got a 09 female snow corn snake on saturday and when i tried to feed her on monday she ate without a problem but yesterday i found the rat all whet and partly digested in the cage.So today i tried to feed her again and the samething happend,so my question is does anyone know what the problem could be?Thanks in advance.
 
part of the problem could be the temp in the viv. warmth is supposed to help digestion so make sure the temp is correct on the warmer side. also if u handled her after u fed her that can lead to regurgitation to, u have to let em digest for a day or so before handling them again. hope this helps!
 
You need to leave her alone for a week so she can get settled/acclimated. You now also need to follow Regurge Protocol. This is all very important. Look up REGURGE in the search and learn what you need to do asap.

EDIT: Start HERE

EDIT2: Kathy Love's Regurge FAQs:


Kathy Love FAQ's

FAQ from Kathy Love on Regurgitation Treatment

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT - once a snake has regurged, especially twice or more, it is more likely to keep on regurging until it dies, unless something is changed about its care and feeding. It is very important NOT to let this continue. PLEASE FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS BELOW VERY CAREFULLY. This is from my FAQ on regurges:

I suspect your problem is probably not bad mice, but about handling too soon, feeding too soon or too large of a meal, a stomach "bug", or improper temps. If you make these mistakes once, or even twice, it is not usually a problem if you FOLLOW MY INSTRUCTIONS EXACTLY. But remember, each time it regurges, the stomach acids are depleted, and the whole electrolyte balance is thrown off more and more each time, and it makes it MORE likely that it will continue to throw up until it dies. (those consequences are just my opinions - I do not know if science backs up my conclusions, but my experience certainly does!) That is why it is so important to NOT ALLOW another regurge.

The next month or two is crucial. DO NOT feed it for AT LEAST 8 days since the last regurge. NOT ANYTHING AT ALL! Then get a newborn frozen pinky and cut it in half (or cut off just the head) If she eats it, leave her alone for a whole week. (no handling). Repeat the partial pinkie feeding the following week. Then feed a whole newborn pinkie a week after that, if there has been no regurge. Leave alone for a whole week. If she regurges, wait a week and repeat 1/2 pinkie. If she keeps it down, wait a week and repeat whole pinkie. If she holds down a couple of meals, DO NOT rush back into larger meals and more handling. Treat this seriously. Go very slowly. After 3 successful meals, go to a newborn pink every 5 days. Go back to normal feedings only after 6 successful meals. Always wait to handle until after 3 or 4 days, but only AFTER 6 successful meals. No handling until then (causes stress, need to keep stress down). And NEVER feed again right after a regurge - ALWAYS wait AT LEAST 7 or 8 days, maybe even up to 10 days, and then only feed something that was about 1/2 the size (or less) of what she regurged..

Also, be sure that temps are not too warm or cool. Try to give an area of low to mid 80s on one side and 70s on the other. Too hot or cold will cause regurges.

Grapefruit seed extract can sometimes help if the snake has some sort of "stomach bug" (any microbial problem) as it is a natural remedy that is good against many kinds of pathogens, but not as strong as an antibiotic prescribed by a doctor. This product has been used in agriculture for many years and seems to be very safe, as long as you dilute it with enough water that the acidity does not burn the tissues. A vet has told me he feels that it may somewhat alter the pH of the animal and thus change the way medicines are absorbed. So if you use this product and then take the snake to a vet, mention the treatment so it can be taken into account if the vet decides to change the prescription because of it. It is best to mix it in a glass and taste it to make sure it is not so bitter that the snake refuses to drink it. I have used it on myself and so has my husband. I find it works better on stomach problems than for other symptoms (such as respiratory - I didn't have any luck treating colds or other respiratory problems).You can buy it at a local health food store or online. Please refer to the following website for more background info:
http://www.nutriteam.com/index2.html

I have also had success with a probiotic called Nutri Bac, a fine powder containing seven different microflora that should be inhabiting the gut of reptiles, but may be absent due to stress, disease, antibiotic treatments, etc. Using the powder as a supplement will sometimes allow the reptile to get back the natural balance of microbes in its digestive tract, and then its own immune system can take over. See my website for more details, or go here:
http://www.cornutopia.com/Corn Ut...information.htm

The number of days and amounts of food, etc, suggested above are not set in stone. Other people may have success with slightly different formulas, but this is what I found works for me and many of my customers. If this protocol does not work when carefully followed, it is likely that the snake has some severe problems. Your only hope is a QUALIFIED herp vet, who may or may not be able to save your pet.

Please follow my care sheet for the first month or so when starting with new acquisitions (posted on my website for the first month's care of new corns).. The first month is crucial in getting the baby established. It is worth a little extra "coddling" for the first month in order to have a trouble free pet for the next 10 or 15 years or more.

Good luck!
Kathy Love

CONTACT INFO:

CORNUTOPIA / Kathy Love
Captive-Bred Cornsnakes

WEB: http://www.CornUtopia.com
TEL: (239) 728 2390
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You need to leave her alone for a week so she can get settled/acclimated. You now also need to follow Regurge Protocol. This is all very important. Look up REGURGE in the search and learn what you need to do asap.

Do you recommend following this protocol when the snake is only 5 grams? I have a Butter Stripe that I'm afraid I'm going to lose.

2/2 Picked up @ FedEx
2/6 Ate f/t pinky
2/11 Ate f/t pinky
2/18 Ate f/t pinky
2/19 Regurge
2/22 weighed 5 grams
2/23 Ate live pinky
2/27 Ate f/t pinky
3/1 Regurge

Based on the protocol I should not try to feed him until 3/8-11. I'm a little worried about that.

Opinions?

***sorry to hijack the thread.
 
As far as I understand, what Kathy wrote is pretty much the standard to follow.

EDIT: you need to give him the time to build his digestive enzymes back up...try the nutribac for when the time comes to feed him. In the meantime, he won't starve.
 
You have been given the best advice out there. I would think that your new lil one is stressed from the trip and new home along with food too soon after regurgiating.

The baby will be fine if you wait the ten days.

Good luck!
 
Hi i got a 09 female snow corn snake on saturday and when i tried to feed her on monday she ate without a problem but yesterday i found the rat all whet and partly digested in the cage.So today i tried to feed her again and the samething happend,so my question is does anyone know what the problem could be?Thanks in advance.

How big is your snake? Are you feeding her rats or mice? Like mentioned, incorrect temps can cause them to regurge, but so can giving them food that is too big for them to digest.
Tina listed excellent info on regurges.
 
Kathy's regurge protocol is the gold standard treatment, but it won't do any good if the temps aren't right. Too hot or too cold and they'll continue to regurge, so best to double-check the basics while you start the protocol.
 
My corn is two years old,i have been feeding her rats about the thickness of her body.
 
I have a female around the 22g mark I fed it 2 asf's a while ago, regurged one up. Saturday fed it one asf and it regurged. So now I'm going to let it sit for a while like Kathy says and follow protocal. But what would be the best temps for them?
 
Kathy stated:
Also, be sure that temps are not too warm or cool. Try to give an area of low to mid 80s on one side and 70s on the other. Too hot or cold will cause regurges.
 
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