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Reptile expo NY LI
- Thread starter Corning
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Corning
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So I went to the show it was pretty hoppin! There was a couple of baby normals a pretty scaless anery, a baby motley hypo something, a couple of adult corns a butter and a hypo stripe. Almost bought a sunbeam it was very cool looking iridescent black snake. But I decided to wait till next year cause I can only have one more snake and I have my heart set on a hypo lavender corn maybe tessera too if I can find one. There was every type of ball python you can think of there. I would go again. Maybe next year I'll check out the one in white plains 
Dragonling
Doesn't do "casual"
If you get a sunbeam, be sure to disregard advice to keep it on aspen. They need deep soil for burrowing and high humidity. Really cool species, and I hope to work with them someday too!
I will have hypo lavenders in the early summer out of my peach phase male, as well as possible lava lavenders, though if I get a tessera version it will likely be NFS.
Corning
Member
I am being patient with acquiring my last snake. After all they live 20 plus years! I will be keeping an eye out for your hypo lavenders Though xo
daddio207
THUG FROG !
FYI...
Sunbeams are one of those snakes that is heavily imported and most die within months. A few have been captive bred and if the seller claims they are I would not believe it. WC go for $30-$60. Last year I came across a LTC for $300 and honestly it was probably worth it since they take A LOT of effort to get them to survive.
I've never had problem getting them to eat. My most recent ones took FT right off. Some say they are constrictor snakes but none of the ones I had ever constricted their prey. A matter of fact when I got my first Sunbeams in decades ago I went to feed them for the first time and I gave them live hoppers. I was horrified! They each grabbed their prey and immediately swallowed it squealing and kicking all the was down!!
They are an awesome looking snake but you will never see it! They stayed buried until you drag a FT mouse over the substrate then they strike, swallow and are gone. They are a very shy snake and stress with exposure.
They are a snake for expert keepers when purchased but are easy to care for after being established for 6+ months.
Even though aspen would be low on the list of substate choices it can be used if everything else is correct. I've used it with established Sunbeams. I'd probably stay away from moss, coco fiber and soil before aspen just for the fact that they tend to be kept to damp and when dried out they are to dusty. They will harbor bacteria easily. Cypress mulch is the best choice. It will hold moisture without being damp. Yes they need high humidity but it must be balanced with a substrate that will NOT promote bacterial infections that most will have as WC. If a newly purchased Sunbeam has even one blister on it, and as a wild caught it will, I would get it on antibiotics right off.
Dragonling
Doesn't do "casual"
Well ok, I suppose I should have said disregard advice that says they need to be extremely dry. I've had a seller tell me that believe it or not, and his sunbeams looked exceptionally dull and dehydrated. I saw some recently that were not quite LTC status but were close, and they were bright and shiny with no blisters that I could see. I believe they were kept on cypress blended with coconut fiber and tropical soil.
Corning
Member
And that is why I couldn't bring myself to buy it. He was selling it for $35.00 it was the only one he had and he didn't seem to know much about except it was called a sunbeam and ate mice and needed moist substrate.
I didn't want to support that type of animal trade. I didn't bother asking him where he got it from.
daddio207
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daddio207
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I'm glad you walked away.
So many imported animals go right to their deaths through these expo's.
Most venders import for the shows and don't treat or even feed them. I cringe everytime I vend at them and see people with Jackson's, Meller's, etc. walking around with their newly purchased animal on their shoulders or in their hands. The poor animal is so stressed that it looks like it might just drop dead right there.