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schools teaching wrong stuff

harry&snaky

harry&snaky

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so my little cusion comes round and i have to get all my animals away from her like my dog. but i was in the middle of cleaning hariets cage. as i finish this i put hariet in her cage, my cousin was watching and since hariet is a nice corn i thought i would let her see hariet in witch she screams,
no harry it limy (translation) no harry its slimy. i said no its scaly but she wouldn't take that for an answer. she said she was tought in school that snakes were slimy.
why do schools teach the complete wrong stuff
i don't blame my cousin i was told snakes were slimy, i didnt know they weren't 'till year 3 (3rd grade)
 
I don't think she was taught in school that snakes are slimy. It's just something she said to make her opinion sound better. She's just a little kid and she's a bit afraid of something she doesn't understand yet. Many people are afraid of snakes (even adults) until they find out more about them.

It's always best to respect someone's fear of snakes. She won't learn that snakes are nice if you try to force her to touch the snake. Just talk about your snake to her and let her look at it from outside the tank. You will probably find that your cousin gets so interested, that one day she will ask to touch the snake and she'll find out for herself that it's not slimy.

Be kind to her - she doesn't know any better yet.
 
Don't get me started on what the current school system teaches our children! I make sure that MY children will at least be taught the truth about many things. Why don't you ask to give a little demonstration/talk to your cousin's class, and even your own. I was able to bring several of my snakes to my daughter's class last year (5th grade) and everybody loved it. Even the teacher, who had previously been phobic about snakes, was cradling my butter female, not wanting to give her back! (PS - Bright, happy colors seem to be more readily accepted by those afraid of snakes.)
 
I totally agree with Susan! It's frustrating hearing some of the drivel and beliefs that are taught to children. I have two children in public schools and I have even seen tests come home that have anti firearm rhetoric on it! Just irritates me! Who do these people think they are? Why do they think, they can mold my child into their obscure beliefs?

Wayne
 
Where we live public schools can't talk about anything political or express opinion on things like firearms thank god. They just teach and thats the way it should be. The funniest story I have is my dughter's friend Krystal came over a few months ago knowing we have reptiles- I have done a few demo's too at her school and most of the kids loved them even though some were still a little afraid. She walks into my bathroom where i had some crickets for my breeding chahouas and scream "ms. carter get the lizards out of here". I'm thinking there better not be a lizard loose in there but I come running just in case and their she was up against the wall pointing at my KK of crickets. I laughed so hard and explained these were crickets nothing like a lizard, but apparently she's afraid of bugs too. Kids hate everything foreign to them- peas, carrots, bugs, and new animals alike if they aren't exposed young they develope irrational predispositions to not liking them.
 
harry&snaky said:
so my little cusion comes round and i have to get all my animals away from her like my dog. but i was in the middle of cleaning hariets cage. as i finish this i put hariet in her cage, my cousin was watching and since hariet is a nice corn i thought i would let her see hariet in witch she screams,
no harry it limy (translation) no harry its slimy. i said no its scaly but she wouldn't take that for an answer. she said she was tought in school that snakes were slimy.
why do schools teach the complete wrong stuff
i don't blame my cousin i was told snakes were slimy, i didnt know they weren't 'till year 3 (3rd grade)
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I would think that this is something she "heard" while IN school.
 
Susan said:
Even the teacher, who had previously been phobic about snakes, was cradling my butter female, not wanting to give her back! (PS - Bright, happy colors seem to be more readily accepted by those afraid of snakes.)
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Isn't that funny how brighter (prettier) snakes are less intimidating, my orange candy cane gets that special treatment by guests too. People are more drawn to her because of her bright colors, whereas my nicer/friendlier Ghost seems to cause more uncertainty, until they hold him and realize he would never bite. Which I find ironic, because generally brighter colors represent danger in some animals.
 
Gee, where I'm from, kids learned stuff like that on the school bus! Or would they say "lorry" where you live????

I was always getting picked on over my choice of weird pets when I was a kid. I was always bringing home frogs and snakes and carp fish. ( Now carp really ARE slimy! ) But little girls are supposed to be terrified of frogs! I kept catching them and kissing them, waiting for that handsome prince to magically appear.

He did, eventually. He was just 20 years late!

Devon
 
This makes me think of s sig of Dale's (jazzgeek) :

" The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. " --- Bertrand Russell

I've been searching anywhere and everywhere for "truths" for years. I have found a few,...and have also found that the word (truth) is relative.
 
Drizzt80 said:
Apparently they are also not teaching how to capitalize, punctuate, spell, and space properly . . . :sidestep:

D80
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You're just figuring that out?

Seriously, however, I had my daughter in a private Christian school for the first 2 years (Kindergarten and 1st grade). We did it basically because her birthday was Sept 24th and the public schools would not accept her into Kindergarten at age 4 years, 11 months and about 1 week of age. She had turn 5 years old by Sept 1st. Now at that age, she was already computer literate, reading at about the 2nd grade level and doing addition and subtraction of 2 digit numbers. We were NOT going to let her be "held back" and end up being even that much more advanced than her classmates. The private school gladly took her and she excelled, even being taught to write in cursive before leaving Kindergarten. And the entire class was that advanced.

Since the public schools would still not accept her into first grade due to her age, she spent that year in private school as well. Unfortunately, after that year, my father, who had been paying for the private school (no way my husband and I could afford it), passed away, and with the decrease in the SS benefits, etc, my mother could not afford to continue with the payments. Luckily, the public schools did take her as a transfer student into the second grade and she didn't get left behind. But naturally, she remained so much more advanced than her classmates that she flew through the next few years without having to really work. It's starting to catch up to her now that she's into middle school.

Back to the subject of literacy, etc...my son has been in the public school system since Kindergarten. Luckily, he's been using a computer since he was 2 years old and my daughter actually taught him to read at about the same time. He is having some difficulty with the writing part, but he is getting there. He has just graduated from the 3rd grade...and I am still waiting for the public school system to start teaching him cursive!

I can remember when I learned how to write in cursive, and that was in the first grade. Is learning to write in cursive no longer considered important?
 
Nope! Cursive is a BIG no-no in the elementary school here! Our eldest is getting ready to go into 3rd grade and he decided to write his name in cursive on one of his papers. Did a pretty good job too! Guess what? He got points taken off his paper because "We are not teaching cursive yet!"
 
I didn't get taught cursive until 5th grade. I've forgotten most of it since. I also didn't get taught long division until 4th grade.

It astounds me, now that I'm older and looking back on it. I'm just glad that my parents taught me to read when I was 4 and didn't let just the schools do it. I remember reading LotR on my own for the first time at 9 years old.
 
Around here, they begin the fundamentals for learning cursive when the children enter first grade. They do this by teaching printed letters that resemble cursive ones. Then they begin teaching cursive at the end of the second grade.

As far as the academics that they teach, I am pretty impressed that the school district has spent the money to teach the teachers a better way to teach the children. They are actually learning different things in earlier grades, then when I went to school. They use the "Everyday Mathematics" method of teaching. Which is a bit weird, but from what I see, it is working.

I don't have a problem with the academics they are teaching my children, it's when they begin to mix in their beliefs, with assignments. Like teaching them about how one particular candidate is better than the other, that firearms are bad or that people who hunt are murdering wild life! (All things my daughter has come home and told me) That's the crap that I am usually sending notes into the school and letting the teacher know that I don't approve!

Wayne
 
I have 3 nephews spaced from 8th to 12th grade.
My question is when did fundamental reading cease to be stressed? There was a time when one was not considered educated unless familiar with the classics : from Dante, Chaucer, and Shakespeare....all the way to Faulkner and Steinbeck.
The last time I asked my nephews about reading,...and/or the classics,...they started telling me about The Lord Of The Rings...and Harry Potter.
 
Our school is pretty far advanced too believe it or not! Just not the cursive I guess. They use the Everyday Mathematics and it kindda drives me buggy because it's not how I learned math and it even confuses me sometimes! LOL!

As for the reading,Eric,I remember having to read Chaucer and Sheakspeare and Steinbeck in High School. I actually loved it and was always in what my school called Honors English courses(college based English)and Honors Composition. Loved it! We actually had to write short novels for Composition one semester and another semester was based entirely on poetry. Paradise Lost was one of the hardest things I ever had to read and comprehend in my entire life! LOL!
 
vetusvates said:
The last time I asked my nephews about reading,...and/or the classics,...they started telling me about The Lord Of The Rings...and Harry Potter.
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UH..OH.. You had to bring out the Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings card didn't you. My brother still swears that those are the greatest books ever. Let's just hope he doesn't see this thread, otherwise you'll hear the same speech I have to, about "how I really should just read them, because they are the best books ever", and "it's only a misconception that Harry Potter is a children's book".
 
I know that I teach my students that all snakes are poisonous and that all snakes are hybirds!!!
 
This is a bit OT, but does anyone here homeschool? I'm planning on it, though my husband isn't 100% on board, he has agreed to try it. I don't look back on my public school years fondly.
 
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