coralife205
New member
I have a female, normal corn, that is just short of 30 inches, and weighs 100 grams. I feed her two fuzzies a week f/t . I think shes ready to move on up, but I dont know if that is an aproprite weight for her.
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Snake out of shape?
- Thread starter coralife205
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Teddy Roosevelt
i loev cronsankes
One Munson Plan, comin' up!
-When they're on single pinks (2-3g), I feed every 4-5 days. (Snake = 4-15g)
-Double pinks (3g x 2) every 4-5 days. (Snake = 16-23g)
-Small fuzzies (5-7g) every 5-6 days. (Snake = 24-30g)
-Regular fuzzies (7-9g) every 5-6 days (Snake = 30-50g)
-Hoppers (9-12g) every 5-6 days (Snake = 51-90g)
-Weaned (14-20g) every 7 days (Snake = 91-170g)
-Adult (24-30g) every 7-x days (Snake = 170+)
-Jumbo Adults (40-50g) every 7-x days (Snake = 400g+)
Note: Adult females are fed more frequently than adult males (especially following brumation). Females are fed every 6-8 days; males are fed every 7-14 days.
-When they're on single pinks (2-3g), I feed every 4-5 days. (Snake = 4-15g)
-Double pinks (3g x 2) every 4-5 days. (Snake = 16-23g)
-Small fuzzies (5-7g) every 5-6 days. (Snake = 24-30g)
-Regular fuzzies (7-9g) every 5-6 days (Snake = 30-50g)
-Hoppers (9-12g) every 5-6 days (Snake = 51-90g)
-Weaned (14-20g) every 7 days (Snake = 91-170g)
-Adult (24-30g) every 7-x days (Snake = 170+)
-Jumbo Adults (40-50g) every 7-x days (Snake = 400g+)
Note: Adult females are fed more frequently than adult males (especially following brumation). Females are fed every 6-8 days; males are fed every 7-14 days.
coralife205
New member
I saw that plan on here, but I dont understand it. Is there anything I need to do or change for the snake or is the weight about right and I should keep doing what Ive been doing?
wstphal
working in the Gulag
Use up the fuzzies you've got, I think. 100 gms & 30 inches sounds OK although a picture would really help. When you run low on fuzzies it's time for hoppers. If the hoppers don't leave a lump, then use them up & move on to weanling mice. I am probably a little more cautious than the Munson plan, I'd rather have my snakes grow slower than have them eat something too big for them.
coralife205
New member
ok. I will finish with the fuzzies.
Nanci
Alien Lover
I use the Munson Plan to feed my snakes. So at 30g they get one fuzzy every five days, then at 50g one hopper every five days, then at 90g one weanling every five days. Once they change to adults- 170g- I feed every seven days. If you're feeding two fuzzies at once, I'd to a couple meals of hoppers, and then go to small weanlings.
coralife205
New member
so then i really should just finish off the rest of the fuzzies i have then swich to 1 hopper? so it IS time to upgrade. thats good to know the snake is not over weight 
windowswisher
expert noisemaker
My snake is a bit under the size of yours (70g, maybe a few inches shorter), and I just moved her up to frozen hoppers from fuzzies. Wasn't too big of a size jump, and a nice plump lump in her belly.
Teddy Roosevelt
i loev cronsankes
It's probably alright, at that weight, to bump her up to more than 2 fuzzies, starting with 2 1/2 (just slice a mouse in half width-wise and offer it up; if the mouse has not gone over or gotten too hot, you wont get nastiness anywhere, trust me :>). I had a bag of 50 pinkies that my snake had quickly outgrown the need for but since my second one had gotten ill and died, I had no one to feed them to. So, mine ended up being on 5 (!!!) pinkies at a time, with no problem, by the time they ran out (he was around 60g then). Of course I transitioned him up to there slowly, 2 pinks for several weeks, then three for several weeks, etc etc. Then I offered ONE fuzzy (because one large prey items is harder for them to digest than several small ones) and from there I'll keep feeding him the fuzzies in greater multiples, as long as he has the weight and thickness to handle them, until I'm through with that bag and need to run to my reptile shop for some hoppers
coralife205
New member
I fed her a LIVE small mouse today...to my amazement, she ate it. I thought it would be too big...I still think it may be... next time ill feed it a step down. I dont think Ill want to feed her live food anymore. twice is enough. poor mouse... LOL f/t is faster and easier and you dont have to worry. This mouse bit my snake, but the snake didnt care. the snake ignored the mouse until I squirted the mouse and the snake with water. the moment I did that, She went across the feeding-cage fast like a bat outa hell. Ive never sceene her move so fast. that mouse was dead almost instantly!! My mouth droped open! lets go back to F/T...provided shell still eat them...
coralife205
New member
btw, since I think she had maybe too much food, I thnk it would be best to wait two weeks before I feed her again?
Teddy Roosevelt
i loev cronsankes
Oh jeez ok this is about to be a mess. Why exactly did you feed live?
coralife205
New member
see what would happen. haha jk...ish.... um because it is more fresh and more natural for them in there natural habitat. In the wild, they dont have frozen food given to them, they have to hunt for it. its in their natural instincts... and, its more nutritious.
diamondlil
Mice! They taste so nice!
Ok, your choice, your snake.
In a tub the snake can miss the live mouse, the mouse cannot escape and to defend itself it can and will take chunks out of your snake.
Scarred up, one-eyed snakes are entirely natural in the wild, the infections that set in from bites are also natural and can heal up without a vet visit, cleaning up or antibiotics, or become infected and cause problems, but hey, keep it natural!
And more nutritious, just how did you conclude that? Live mice can carry parasites such as worms which are killed by freezing, but again diseased wild snakes with high parasite loads are indeed natural.
Teddy Roosevelt
i loev cronsankes
Eeeeeeeeek! -ducks and covers before Beth gets here-
ComoxCorn
Pssst...Got Corn??
Now I've seen this comment a number of times before regarding "live mice carry parasites and freezing kills them"
That statement is not enturely true. The ova of many parasites easily survive freezing. So would you advocate that fresh killed is also considered a husbandry faux pas?
As for the original poster of this thread. When I look at the two threads regarding this snake, it's very apparent this person has done little research regarding the caring for corn snakes. I mean, this snake is 100 grams, and they want to co-hab it with the intent of it laying eggs next season. Also, they aren't sure of what size prey item is suitable for a snake this size. And tossing it live for no better reason than to "see what would happen" shows their disregard for the safety of the snake.
I'm thinking more that the OP is just trying to invite negative feedback.
Teddy Roosevelt
i loev cronsankes
Not only that, but the snake was bitten! A bite wound could easily become infected and at the very least will leave an ugly scar.