snow eyes?

[predaza]

hi guys i was just wondering about how sensative the eyes of a snow are compared to other corns?
This may be a stupid question but human albinos tend to suffer with sensative eyes to the sun etc and i know that albinoism isnt the same in snakes but doesnt the red colouration of snows and blizzards etc make them the same way?
any info on this wud be great

Aaron

 

[Jayde]

I've always wondered too.

My snow corn does have really good vision, he's very alert but he is also half black ratsnake and I don't know if that helps his vision. I've had a Grey Ratsnake before and I think they can see very well. But my other Corn a red Amel female with deep red eyes isn't as keen as he is, she'll hardly notice you unless you cast a shadow over her and she's a full corn.
So in all fairness, ...I don't really know... But I thought I'd just let you know, because I've always wanted to know as well.

Luv
Jayde
-x-

 

[elaphe4herps]

just a thot... but my snows seem to be very jumpy when approached. anyone else? most snows i know of can be extremely nippy....

personally... i think snows have worse eyesight than normals, but im stumped when it comes to amels. they don't seem to show any signs that they can't see.

just thinking out loud

 

[Neumann]

Predaza,

Even though our family's snakes all have normal eyes, even our albino (Anery he he), you sparked some curiosity in me to find an answer.

First, there are two types of albinism- in humans anyway: Oculocutaneous Albinism (OCA), where melanin is missing in skin, hair and eyes, and Ocular Albinism (OA), where melanin is mainly missing from the eyes.

Human albinos often have vision problems such as near and far sightedness. Also their eyes tend to be photo-sensitive because their iris allows some stray light to enter the eye. Since the biology of a snake eye is quite different from that of us humans, your snow may, or may not suffer from any of these human issues. Sorry I don't have 'the' answer but I found all of this interesting none the less.

Cheers,
Jason

 

[predaza]

no problem
thanks for the replies guys lets keep em coming! does anyone know any corn know-how heavyweights that could help with this?
im still dead curious

 

[Quigs]

Interesting thread...

I haven't noticed any slightness in vision in any of my amels. But intrestingly enough, I have a female snow that is a little spitfire!

I think she sees alright, for when I had her in a glass cage she would follow our fingers on the glass and such. But she is definately the most agressive corn that we have, and ironically the only snow as well.

I had never thought it could be a vision thing until you all brought it up. I just thought she was down right hateful! :angry01:

I'm curious now as well,

Quigs

 

[isis11]

Mine too!

My female snow is definitely more aggressive. I've only been bit once and it was by her. She also rattles her tail more and is a great deal more jumpy then my other snakes. I guess I just always attributed it to her being female, but I bet it could very well be a vision thing. Very curious. Great question Predaza!

 

[predaza]

hey looks like ive started something here
my snow Spirit only seems to react to very large movements or changes in light so im still not sure whether he/she can see ok.

spirit doesnt seem to be aggresive at all in fact hes/shes a little angel when it comes to behavior:laugh: but i dont know whether thats just coz its a baby ?????

 

[Taceas]

Hrm. Interesting thread here.

My 5 year old male snow corn is anything but aggressive towards humans. He's never offered to bite me once and hasn't ever really looked like he would nip, either.

But, he doesn't like to be suddenly disturbed if he's "sleeping" in his hide. If you take the hide off of him and instantly grab him, he struggles and strains and rattles his tail.

However if you politely knock lightly on the side of his enclosure, he'll come out to greet you. And as long as you don't smell like mouse, you're in the clear.

This snake is also the most aggressive feeder I've got. He coils so fast and strong he's popped the lid off of my feeding container twice. And in a couple instances he's squeezed the mouse so hard blood came out of the mouse's facial orifices. And he's squeezed around my forearm a couple of times so tightly it cut off the circulation, especially for his checkup at the vet. =P

I do notice that he doesn't seem to see me as well as my other snakes. He tends to follow the shadow of my arm more than the arm itself. Whereas my amels don't seem to experience this. So maybe it's something that is compounded when you have amel and anery in the mix.

 

[elaphe4herps]

Possibly.... hmmm....

Maybe as Jason brought up earlier about the types of ocular albinism in humans.... there are more than one type of ocular albinism in corns as well. Maybe some kinds of snows have the bad kind (they can't see and get startled easily) and some have the good kind.

Or it could be a possiblity that all snows have bad eyesight and the ones that don't bite are already used to human interaction (as Misty's snow) and some (maybe hatchlings for the most part?) aren't comfortable with a giant log-shaped object about to land on them. My baby snow will violently rattle her tail when i open her cage and attempt to strike as i reach down to get her... but once she's in my hands, shes calms right down. But my breeder female snow won't even flinch when i open her cage and get her... and shes just as calm in my hands as well.

still thinking out loud....

Wes Spinks