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Snow or Coral?

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angusage

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Hi guys,
I got a snow recently.
It is very pink, so I doubt is it coral?
or just a normal snow?

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Sorry, but you can't ID a coral (i.e., hypo) snow from a normal snow many times. Some snows are more pink than some corals, etc. The only way to be 100% sure is to (1) know the parents or (2) breed them to a hypo and see the babies! Me? I'd GUESS pink snow and not a coral due to the placement of the pink, but I wouldn't place a bet on me being right or wrong!

Pretty snakes, though...especially the one that is probably the male....the one on the left in the bottom image, right?
KJ
 
What KJUN said! But I'll add that I've seen bubblegum and neon snows much pinker than any coral snow. Then again, it's sort of a different kind of pink...weird how a SNOW could have so many different looks, but that's one of the best things about corn snakes...variety, even within a single morph.

Also...GREAT PAIR! Mixing the increased pink of the one with the great "green" of the other in hopes of creating some super pink and green snows! ME LIKES!
 
KJUN and Susan,thanks for your replies
That's helpful.
I'll try to get a hypo and find the answer.
But I wonder how's the placement of the coral's pink,
Could you tell me something about that?
Thank you so much.
 
Many corals (mine at least - and the ones I've looked at in the past) seem to have a "harder" pink - if that makes sense - on the background.....not just one the blotches like yours.
KJ
 
I don't have much experience with hypo but I do have a lot of experience with the SMR strain of Coral as well as with Neon, which is compatible with Coral. Your snakes look like they are either homo or het for SMR coral. Most things I bred a SMR coral into last year clearly showed the coral influence in the progeny, suggesting that this is some sort of color modifier at a minimum. As stated before, there is a lot a variation in the Corals. I think we will be learning a lot more about this gene or set of genes in the next few years.
 
poppycorn said:
I don't have much experience with hypo but I do have a lot of experience with the SMR strain of Coral as well as with Neon, which is compatible with Coral. Your snakes look like they are either homo or het for SMR coral. Most things I bred a SMR coral into last year clearly showed the coral influence in the progeny, suggesting that this is some sort of color modifier at a minimum. As stated before, there is a lot a variation in the Corals. I think we will be learning a lot more about this gene or set of genes in the next few years.
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SMR coral is a hypo snow....from ghosts het snow.
 
KJUN said:
SMR coral is a hypo snow....from ghosts het snow
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At one time Don did have a coral that was a hypo. But most of the ones he is producing now appear to have a different genetics to them and probably need a separate name to avoid confusion. angusage's snakes look very much like a paler version of the more intense SMR coral. I have also seen similar coloration on snows het for the SMR coral. I think it's an exciting and beautiful gene (or look or whatever) and angusage is fortunate to have gotten hold of it in her snakes.
 
poppycorn said:
At one time Don did have a coral that was a hypo. But most of the ones he is producing now appear to have a different genetics to them and probably need a separate name to avoid confusion. angusage's snakes look very much like a paler version of the more intense SMR coral. I have also seen similar coloration on snows het for the SMR coral. I think it's an exciting and beautiful gene (or look or whatever) and angusage is fortunate to have gotten hold of it in her snakes.
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I'm not sure where you got all of you data from, but i was looking for something last year and Don specifically told me "all of my corals come from ghosts"....then he pulled the snakes out of his cage to show me SOME of the parents that produced his. He may have meant that the coral snows he sells as definite hypos come from those and the others are only assumed hypos? I don't know. i was looking for something very specific, so I didn't ask follow-up questions for stuff that didn't concern me. I know he has some pink/coral/whatever adults he is breeding at least this year, but I don't know if he is calling them coral snows, too. I have never bothered to ask. He also has the champagnes, but I don't consider those obvious hybrids a "cornsnake." Yuck on them.

Needless to say, I've seen MANY pink/bubblegum (especially the famous Lemke line!) snows that were more pink than coral/hypo snows. Anyone that claims they can DEFINITELY tell the difference based on looks alone 100% of the time is disillusioned....lol.

KJ
 
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