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Snow paradox.. her two red spots!

Lilou

Lilou

Italian sweetie ^.^
These are some shots of my snow paradox 2005, female. She is the mother of my first hatchlings with a male Albino. [I had it this year :rolleyes::rolleyes:]
She was born from a female snow, and a male het snow. This couple every year made new hatchlings paradox, with little red spots on body! Gorgeous.

I hope my hatchlings would be "paradox line".

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[feel free to quote and correct me if I made "English" mistakes :p]
Ilaria
 
The_Thunderer said:
Nice! It would be kewl if you could really breed for "paradox-ism".

Sure is pretty!!!
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I've taken this year a baby of the same family, son of two snow paradox (sister and brother of my snow!). He hasn't red spot on it, but sometimes they appear after some sheds. I hope it!
He will be her husband ;)

P.S: As soon as possible, i will get a fullbody shot!
 
She's beautiful! Looking at the scale colors, it looks like there's a lot more color that might surprise you when it comes in a little more!
 
Very cool! I tried to prove out my old Snow male's Ruby Freckled traits, but it never happened. I'm crossing my fingers for you!
 
How many of those red spots are like that? If it is just a couple, it may not be that rare. A friend pointed out on of my ghost cubes with one or two tiny marks like that. We laughed it off, but turns out it isn't the only one like that. I wouldn't be surprised if 1 out of 250 or so anerythristics had a couple small dots like that - and they are hardly ever noticed. Shrug? If you can reproduce it in yours reliably, THAT would be special, though! Woo-Hoo!
 
There are other subject with one or two red spots, like mine, in Italy, but ALL come from first two parents! :)
Now I have two choices: reproduce my paradox with a snow, which comes from "paradox blood" too (son of two snow paradox, of the same family of mine).
Or I'll try to reproduce her with one of her own son, albino het snow.
If I don't make a mistake, paradox usually come out from an homozigous and an hetero.

Which of this two males do you suggest for my girl?
 
paradox isn't a gen.. I have a male Ghost Bloodred and he shows some of those red dots too... but he isn't paradox.
 
XCIN said:
paradox isn't a gen.. I have a male Ghost Bloodred and he shows some of those red dots too... but he isn't paradox.
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All can be.
[From Corn Snakes, The Comprehensive Owner's Guide - Cathy and Bill Love.] ..In 1966 Joe Hiduke and Bill Brant hatched two male snow corns that have small, scattered patches of pure red emerging randomly over their bodies. These ruby-freckled corns resulted unexpectedly from the routine mating of two standard snow corns.
[...] The genetics and degrees of eventual red coverage in this morph are still in the infancy of study. [..] Since those first breedings, many progeny have been produced, and the two male snows are now great-grandfathers. Unfortunately, the effect has not proven to be a simple recessive trait. [But this doesn't mean it's not genetically transmissible ;) ] [..] Strangely, other ruby-freckled babies have popped up in the collection and have not been directly related to the original males. The heritability of this trait is unknown at this time.
 
Lilou said:
All can be.
[From Corn Snakes, The Comprehensive Owner's Guide - Cathy and Bill Love.] ..In 1966 Joe Hiduke and Bill Brant hatched two male snow corns that have small, scattered patches of pure red emerging randomly over their bodies. These ruby-freckled corns resulted unexpectedly from the routine mating of two standard snow corns.
[...] The genetics and degrees of eventual red coverage in this morph are still in the infancy of study. [..] Since those first breedings, many progeny have been produced, and the two male snows are now great-grandfathers. Unfortunately, the effect has not proven to be a simple recessive trait. [But this doesn't mean it's not genetically transmissible ;) ] [..] Strangely, other ruby-freckled babies have popped up in the collection and have not been directly related to the original males. The heritability of this trait is unknown at this time.
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In that case, it's very possible that the freckles have to do with incubation conditions. For example, they might have incubated with a high temperature fluctuation, or just a high temperature, or a low temperature, or very high humidity, or very low humidity, or a combination of any number of factors.
In my opinion, this is one of those "traits" that randomly shows up due to conditions that no one has yet figured out precisely.
 
RobbiesCornField said:
In that case, it's very possible that the freckles have to do with incubation conditions. For example, they might have incubated with a high temperature fluctuation, or just a high temperature, or a low temperature, or very high humidity, or very low humidity, or a combination of any number of factors.
In my opinion, this is one of those "traits" that randomly shows up due to conditions that no one has yet figured out precisely.
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But there are 2 strange things: the first, is that not only in my snow's clutch there were some paradox. From the same mother and father, for the following years other paradox hatched. I can't believe that for so different times there were the same incubation conditions! [I'm going to ask some other detail from my friend, the breeder]
The second, is that in a random manner, some new snow paradox with little red spots hatches in different places of Italy, and ALL are related with the same grandparents, and the same paradox line of my snow!
 
Lilou said:
But there are 2 strange things: the first, is that not only in my snow's clutch there were some paradox. From the same mother and father, for the following years other paradox hatched. I can't believe that for so different times there were the same incubation conditions! [I'm going to ask some other detail from my friend, the breeder]
The second, is that in a random manner, some new snow paradox with little red spots hatches in different places of Italy, and ALL are related with the same grandparents, and the same paradox line of my snow!
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From what I've heard of true paradox snakes (snakes with more than just one or two "freckles"), that is very rare indeed. This is what I believe to be a "true" paradox snow corn snake:
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(IMG taken from www.halloffamereptiles.com)

Anything other than that, in MY opinion, is just a random freckle. My snow corn has two red spot on two red scales, but I don't believe that she is a paradox.
 
That's a gorgeous paradox! :)
But i don't think mine, or yours, couldn't be a paradox too. It is a trait so unknown that none can say "He's a paradox only if has got 40 spots"
The sure thing is that as a snow, she shouldn't have that 2 red spots.
Anyway, it's a characteristic I want to study. :D
 
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