Snow + x = EPIC

[MarineXII]

Hey all! I am just curious what morphs bred to a snow will make some epic morphs .

 

[MysticExotics]

The most you can get out of first generation would be more snows, if you paired with another Snow.
You can get some fun combinations if you pair with a homo multi gene snake, hold back a 1.1 pair of the babies, and breed them together when they are big enough.
Then you will have babies with genetics from both.

Check out Corncalc.com

 

[MarineXII]

The 2 snows I am getting are from the same parents so doubt I will pair them up in the future . Is it possible to get a charcoal het amel from a snow and then get blizzards from 2 charcoal het amel?

 

[MysticExotics]

You can pair siblings. The rule of thumb that I follow is no more than three generations of pairing related snakes, then I outcross.

If the genes are there (in hets or homo) yes, it is possible. Both parents have to carry the genes, in order to get visual (homo) babies.

 

[MarineXII]

Oh I thought you shouldnt... but thanks for lettingme know!

 

[MysticExotics]

Oh I thought you shouldnt... but thanks for lettingme know!

You can, and it is very common.
A breeder pairs two snakes, someone buys 1.1 pair of babies and breeds them together, then someone buys a 1.1 pair from them, etc.
The problems start to arise when there are several generations of this.

I will pair siblings if I know their parents are unrelated, or if there is only one or two generations, otherwise I outcross.

I have some babies that are related, and their parents are related, but the grandparents are not. I will pair them, but their offspring will be outcrossed.

 

[Isoldael]

It's very common, but the effects of inbreeding in reptiles are not well researched. I personally don't take the risk, I don't want to risk weakening the population. That's why I try to get animals that are completely unrelated as far as I can tell (which generally means they were unrelated for a good number of generations. At some point they probably share a common ancestor if they carry the same gene)

 

[MysticExotics]

Here is another thread on Breeding siblings

 

[MysticExotics]

Here is another thread on Breeding siblings

A lot of breeders do pair siblings/related snakes.
If you keep track of the lineage, and are careful to outcross after 2-3 gernations, you should be just fine.

 

[MarineXII]

Thanks guys! I asked the breeder and he said the snows' parents weren't inbred so that clarified one thing

 

[MarineXII]

You can get some fun combinations if you pair with a homo multi gene snake, hold back a 1.1 pair of the babies, and breed them together when they are big enough.

Sorry for this nub question but what is a homo multi gene snake? The homo and multi sounds a bit contradicting.

 

[MarineXII]

I can't find anything on the internet either...

 

[MysticExotics]

Sorry for this nub question but what is a homo multi gene snake? The homo and multi sounds a bit contradicting.

It just means a snake that the snake visually has more than one gene.
For example, a Sunkissed Snow is Sunkissed, Amel, Anery.

 

[MarineXII]

Oh thanks