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Starting over again need advice

JTGoff69

JTGoff69

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I owned 13 corns and was an active member here years ago. I sold my babies and moved 3 yes ago, but miss having corns as pets. I've relocated to South Fl and there is a reptile show in two weeks. I want to get a viv set up before then, get the temps right, and have everything ready for my new snake. My problem is heating. I'll be using a 20L, with a Zoo Med 10-20 UTH and a screened top. My house temp is set at 71 & my bedroom (where the viv will be) always has the fan going. I know that warm side temps should be ?85? ish, and cool side temps should be ?75? ish. My question is....where do you take those temps?? On top of the bedding? On the glass above the UTH? Ambient temp? I remember always using a heat lamp on the warm side and changing from day to night bulbs to simulate diurnal/nocturnal periods. Help!
 
JTGoff69 said:
I owned 13 corns and was an active member here years ago. I sold my babies and moved 3 yes ago, but miss having corns as pets. I've relocated to South Fl and there is a reptile show in two weeks. I want to get a viv set up before then, get the temps right, and have everything ready for my new snake. My problem is heating. I'll be using a 20L, with a Zoo Med 10-20 UTH and a screened top. My house temp is set at 71 & my bedroom (where the viv will be) always has the fan going. I know that warm side temps should be ?85? ish, and cool side temps should be ?75? ish. My question is....where do you take those temps?? On top of the bedding? On the glass above the UTH? Ambient temp? I remember always using a heat lamp on the warm side and changing from day to night bulbs to simulate diurnal/nocturnal periods. Help!
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Hi there JTGoff69! How ya been?

:welcome_back_01:

From what I have seen here, most suggest taking the temp on the glass directly above the UTH. That's what the majority of folks will probably tell you. I have different setups, 3 out of 4 being screen-mesh 55 gallon setups, which many folks might debate as to whether or not the combo of a ceramic heat emitter and a heat rock are acceptable, but that setup has worked great for me for just about 8 years with my little sneaky ones. The only challenge with the extra ventilation I have is when it's time for them to shed, so I add a humid hide for each when they're blue or for my albinos, when I notice they're almost ready to shed. Otherwise, I like the added ventilation the screen-mesh vivs provide. My yearling, however, is in the only 55G glass tank I have (I prefer larger setups for them) and that one has a UTH with a thermostat measuring 85 degrees right on top of the glass above the heater and Ozzy thrives in that one, but he usually can be found on the cooler side under a hide, for whatever that's worth.

I hope you find what you're looking for at the reptile expo!!! :crazy02:
 
I agree that most people take the temperature on the inside surface of the glass. Then your snake can burrow down if he or she wants more warmth.

Are you looking for a specific morph or just anything that catches your eye? You'll have to post some pictures for us of what you get.
 
I'm looking for a nice lavender motley possibly hypo, and a reverse oketee. Of course, one never knows if there will be one you just can't resist lol.
 
I have started taping my uth to the bottom of the tank as opposed to sticking it on directly and have been taping the thermometer probe directly to the uth on the outside as opposed to having it on the inside...that way the snakes can't accidently move it around and thus result in false readings (those little suction cup things don't work a damn inside the tank)
 
I was planning on setting the tank up and monitoring the temps for the week and a half before getting my snake and then checking it every 5 days while it's feeding. Will that not be okay?
 
how is it somebody has "13 Reputation Marks" (more than anyone else on this entire thread) and they don't have the basic knowledge of how to house a snake? I feel sorry for all the people that have taken advice from this person. And this just proves my point that the "Reputation System" here is severely flawed and just a way for the "Good Ol' Boy Network" to propagate itself. If you're popular and liked you'll get points regardless of what you know about raising snakes.

This puts in jeopardy all newbies that will come here in the future and get direction from people like this.

Ok Haters, say what you want.
 
Setting it up and making sure your temps are correct before getting the snake is a great idea. That way you will know what you need to adjust (if anything) and where your settings should be.
 
Karl_Mcknight said:
how is it somebody has "13 Reputation Marks" (more than anyone else on this entire thread) and they don't have the basic knowledge of how to house a snake? I feel sorry for all the people that have taken advice from this person. And this just proves my point that the "Reputation System" here is severely flawed and just a way for the "Good Ol' Boy Network" to propagate itself. If you're popular and liked you'll get points regardless of what you know about raising snakes.

This puts in jeopardy all newbies that will come here in the future and get direction from people like this.

Ok Haters, say what you want.
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The OP was last active on here in 2006. A lot changes in 10 years. I would have once considered myself an expert with aquariums, even 7 or 8 years ago. The technology has changed so much in those 7 or 8 years that I would hardly consider myself worthy of giving advice on anything more than the most simple of questions now. In fact, if I were to set up an aquarium again I would do the same thing as the OP and ask for advice from those who are currently active in the hobby that are hopefully up to speed with the latest advancements in technology.

I applaud the OP for reaching out and trying to find out what are today's best practices rather than just going with what worked for him years ago.
 
Karl_Mcknight said:
how is it somebody has "13 Reputation Marks" (more than anyone else on this entire thread) and they don't have the basic knowledge of how to house a snake? I feel sorry for all the people that have taken advice from this person. And this just proves my point that the "Reputation System" here is severely flawed and just a way for the "Good Ol' Boy Network" to propagate itself. If you're popular and liked you'll get points regardless of what you know about raising snakes.

This puts in jeopardy all newbies that will come here in the future and get direction from people like this.

Ok Haters, say what you want.
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Seriously? Ï have been out of corn keeping for 10 years. A lot changes in 10 years. I asked for advice & I get this? Don't worry about newbies, if they get answers like this to their posts they won't hang around anyway.

Thanks for those of you that were kind enough to help.
 
blacktip said:
The OP was last active on here in 2006. A lot changes in 10 years. I would have once considered myself an expert with aquariums, even 7 or 8 years ago. The technology has changed so much in those 7 or 8 years that I would hardly consider myself worthy of giving advice on anything more than the most simple of questions now. In fact, if I were to set up an aquarium again I would do the same thing as the OP and ask for advice from those who are currently active in the hobby that are hopefully up to speed with the latest advancements in technology.

I applaud the OP for reaching out and trying to find out what are today's best practices rather than just going with what worked for him years ago.
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Thank you Blacktip! i certainly have no intention of giving advice to anyone obviously if I'm asking for it.
 
JTGoff69 said:
Thank you Blacktip! i certainly have no intention of giving advice to anyone obviously if I'm asking for it.
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For whatever it's worth Jen, I think it's OK to ask and give advice equally. As long as your heart's in the right place, someone will chime in if what you're saying is off the wall anyway. If not, they should. Besides, it's up to anyone who asks for advice whether or not they should blindly accept it or not. We all have brains, to SOME degree, I hope. But not all here have a kind heart, for whatever reason. It's like someone is constantly pissing in their Cheerios. I can't figure it out, but it's OK, I'll love 'em anyway, whether they like it or not, because this is a forum where you should be able to speak your mind regardless of whether I agree with you or not. Live and let live, right?

And in the immortal words of Testicleeze, "A rolling stone . . . er, . . . will give you a HELLUVA BRUISE!!"

:eatsmiley
 
Karl_Mcknight said:
how is it somebody has "13 Reputation Marks" (more than anyone else on this entire thread) and they don't have the basic knowledge of how to house a snake? I feel sorry for all the people that have taken advice from this person. And this just proves my point that the "Reputation System" here is severely flawed and just a way for the "Good Ol' Boy Network" to propagate itself. If you're popular and liked you'll get points regardless of what you know about raising snakes.

This puts in jeopardy all newbies that will come here in the future and get direction from people like this.

Ok Haters, say what you want.
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As a point of info, the reputation system was turned off for a long time and infrequently used by us newer members. It evidently was on in the past and was recently turned back on. I don't know when I became aware of it, but one day fairly recently it showed some points in my info.

I often forget to give rep even for very good posts. So don't take it to heart. It doesn't mean what it would have if it had been in use all the time and it had shown something when us newer members gave rep.

The other thing I see is that sometimes the folks with the best reputations ask for and are willing to get more information. Of course that's an attitude and has nothing to do with some points near a name.

I really appreciate your input, Karl, points or not! You are one of the best current contributors and besides who can resist Rufus? ;)
 
Karl_Mcknight said:
how is it somebody has "13 Reputation Marks" (more than anyone else on this entire thread) and they don't have the basic knowledge of how to house a snake? I feel sorry for all the people that have taken advice from this person. And this just proves my point that the "Reputation System" here is severely flawed and just a way for the "Good Ol' Boy Network" to propagate itself. If you're popular and liked you'll get points regardless of what you know about raising snakes.

This puts in jeopardy all newbies that will come here in the future and get direction from people like this.

Ok Haters, say what you want.
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If you have an issue with the reputation system, why don't you talk to Rich Z about it rather than posting an inflammatory and unrelated comment in someone's thread.
 
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