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substrateless incubation

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se7en2003

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so i have used the substrateless incubation method with my ball pythons and it worked great 100 % humidity the whole time....will this work with corns has anyone tried it?
 
I have. Used it on all of my snakes this year. Had 100% success, zero mold.
 

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great thanks....yeah i had 100% on my bp eggs in the past....im going to use it on all my corns this yr.....i think its interesting that u used a deli cup to incubate....thats a great idea....i had not thought of that...i was using a plastic shoe box ....ill have to get some larger deli cups and use them this yr
 
Unless they are really big eggs or a really big clutch, you can get them all in a deli. That way they are all separate from each other in the incubator and the babies can't intermingle if several clutches hatch at the same time.
 
There is an entire thread on substrateless incubation methods. If you search for threads I have started with those keywords, you'll find helpful photos of various ways in which people have done "substrateless" incubation successfully with cornsnakes. Good luck!
 
Not substrateless, but I don't use an incubator either... ;)

I normally use a mixture of perlite and large grain vermiculite in a plastic tub. Last year I experimented with the "Glad" tubs, which can be fairly deep. I fill them about half way with substrate; dampen the substrate, but not wet; and put a clutch of eggs on top. Then I weigh the incubation container and put it on a shelf in a closet in my Summer Herp Room. The closet normally is bt. 80 and 83*F. I weigh the containers every two to three weeks to see if they need any additional water, but they usually don't. My hatch rate was near perfect this year and I even took a two week vacation in the middle of it all. Most were not corn snakes, however, but other ratsnakes, such as Emory's ratsnakes.

BTW, the containers have some air holes in the top, for air exchange. The humidity doesn't have to be 100% either, imho. I think anything above 70% has worked for me too.

I'll have to look around a little to see if I have any photos.
 
I'm too lazy to go search at the moment, so since this thread is here, I'll just ask. Has anyone used the SIM incubators on here? They are off substrate ones. People have started started using them with geckos & I've read of a few snake breeders trying them, but not many with corns. If the worked well with corn clutches, I'd certainly think about getting one down the road.
 
Not sure I took any pics of containers this year, but I'll keep looking. This one is from 2007 and I think I only used perlite that year, same methods though...
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I'm going to try the S.I.M. container with corns next breeding season. I think I'm going to either try big Styrofoam box with water and fish tank heater. Maybe a small fan to git air circulation going. Or a dry incubation with heat pad/tape on the bottom, with a fan for circulation. Any opinions?
 
I acquired a SIM incubation container last month and put it to use on the next corn clutch that was laid. I have it set up inside of my Hovabator with plain water a the bottom of the box, a layer of damp sphagnum moss over the top of the eggs and the temp set around 83 degrees. So far, my clutch is three weeks along in the incubation process, and all of the eggs look really great. I can't wait to see if they really hatch earlier with this method.
 
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