the Palmetto morph-differnt topic?

[StarpphireEnigma]

i couldnt see the image in the palmeto topic above, but from what i gather, it doesnt seem to be the same as the one i discovered today- please correct me if im wrong or send me images of the other

http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/species/elaphe_guttata/palmetto/

either way, most gorgeous snake

 

[zmtab]

that snake is very pretty someone just posted that on fb or was that you lol id like to have a nice snake like that one day

 

[StarpphireEnigma]

nope- ians vivarium did hence why i shot over here it looks like its the same snake from the other topic ( found pics) still, i love to bring ians vivarium over here when i can so people can check out the web site

 

[Camby]

nope- ians vivarium did hence why i shot over here it looks like its the same snake from the other topic ( found pics) still, i love to bring ians vivarium over here when i can so people can check out the web site

It is the same adult. The hatchling was of a different one that Don posted on the original thread about the trait.

dc

 

[StarpphireEnigma]

thats just an amazeing animal! i knew it was Don's since his name was on the photo, i was just brought to its attention today by a facebook post by ians vivarium and it took me a while to find the photo link elsewhere- thanks

 

[atmox]

I've been breaking my head over this, i swear i saw this morph before listed somewhere as a paradox snow some months ago but i can't find it anywhere now.
Also i can't understand all the difficult words in the original post here but i think if you breed it into other morphs it wouldn't change the white but the speckles. Unless this morph was discovered while aiming for blizzards. If I'm correct this would mean if you breed a blizzard Palmetto you would get something that looks like a leucistic corn snake. And that would be awesome 'cause i love white snakes!

Anyway i also really love the palmetto but it's way too expensive for me now, lol.

Ooh and i've been using ians vivarium for a long time now and i think many members here use it too.

 

[Camby]

I've been breaking my head over this, i swear i saw this morph before listed somewhere as a paradox snow some months ago but i can't find it anywhere now.
Also i can't understand all the difficult words in the original post here but i think if you breed it into other morphs it wouldn't change the white but the speckles. Unless this morph was discovered while aiming for blizzards. If I'm correct this would mean if you breed a blizzard Palmetto you would get something that looks like a leucistic corn snake. And that would be awesome 'cause i love white snakes!

Anyway i also really love the palmetto but it's way too expensive for me now, lol.

Ooh and i've been using ians vivarium for a long time now and i think many members here use it too.

Firstly, The Palmetto was not discovered in a breeding project. The original male was WC. Here is a link to how it came to be.

http://cornsnakes.net/snakes-for-sa...flypage.pbv.tpl&product_id=219&category_id=68

Secondly, there have been many Paradox Snows of varying "looks" and degrees of "speckling", but none have ever proven to be genetically reproducible. That is why this gene is special, it has been proven to be simple recessive.

Lastly, at this point we have no idea how morph combos will look down the road. They may all be pretty much clones of what we already see but with colored speck (or flecks if you prefer). It is way too soon to know how it will look down the road. So far there are only three clutches and they are all het duaghter's bred back to dad. Who knows, it may be a polygenetic trait and we may be able to line breed for larger specs of coloration, maybe not? Only time will tell.

dc

 

[Ssthisto]

if you breed a blizzard Palmetto you would get something that looks like a leucistic corn snake. And that would be awesome 'cause i love white snakes!

A Blizzard Palmetto would most likely be a red-eyed white snake, pretty much indistinguishable from a Blizzard.

Now, if it works like I suspect it does - that morphs will change the colour flecking - then for a leucistic-lookalike I'd probably go for something like hypo charcoal stripe palmettos... a double-dose of reduction-of-black-pigment-effect genes, plus a reducing-red/yellow-pigment trait.