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This snake is beautiful....but what kind of corn is it??
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bitsy
Owned by Corns since 1991
A "morph" is a variation in colour that departs from the Normal's natural colouration because of traits that are carried genetically. Sort of like ginger hair in humans - both parents have to be carrying the ginger gene, in order for their child to have ginger hair.
A "Miami-phase" is still a Normal, but a variation of the Normal colour has come about through selective breeding. Someone has taken two Normals with greyish backgrounds and darker brown saddles. When these have offspring, the examples are kept back that have even cleaner grey backgrounds and nicer brown saddles. These are then bred together and the best examples of their offspring kept... etc. After several generations of breeding, you'll have a Miami - genetically still a Normal, but looking very different to a run-of-the-mill Normal.
A "Miami-phase" is still a Normal, but a variation of the Normal colour has come about through selective breeding. Someone has taken two Normals with greyish backgrounds and darker brown saddles. When these have offspring, the examples are kept back that have even cleaner grey backgrounds and nicer brown saddles. These are then bred together and the best examples of their offspring kept... etc. After several generations of breeding, you'll have a Miami - genetically still a Normal, but looking very different to a run-of-the-mill Normal.
wstphal
working in the Gulag
Yeah, the folks here are very actively checking posts & super knowledgeable! They may have saved my Humphrey from bad things happening (I was thinking about co-habbing & they set me straight on the dangers of that LOL). I just got the 2010 morph guide so here's my contribution, straight from it:
"The name 'Miami phase' was coined to describe a look that is often seen in corns coming from that area." [That would be wild caught] "The ground color is gray, tan, or somewhere in between. Corn snakes from anywhere can take on this look, so they name does not imply a locality, nor does any corn coming from that area automatically qualify as a 'Miami phase.'"
The morph guide is Charles Pritzel's work, website is:
http://cornguide.com
I hope that helps!
Thanks. Someone in the chatroom yesterday referred me to www.cornsnakemorphgallery.com and that helped me understand alot too.
I know not all corns are made the same. Each snake/animal has it's own personality but corn snakes are overall friendly, easy to care for snakes right? So...does it matter which corn you get? There are different types like Lavender/Creamsicle. But that only applies to the color and pattern? How do you ensure you are getting a friendly relaxed corn?
I really think I got lucky with my creamsicle Jynx. When I first held him he relaxed and just hung out instead of being stressed and trying to escape like others I held. And even if my finger was right in front of his face he didn't try to bite me. That can't be how they all are though?
I know not all corns are made the same. Each snake/animal has it's own personality but corn snakes are overall friendly, easy to care for snakes right? So...does it matter which corn you get? There are different types like Lavender/Creamsicle. But that only applies to the color and pattern? How do you ensure you are getting a friendly relaxed corn?
I really think I got lucky with my creamsicle Jynx. When I first held him he relaxed and just hung out instead of being stressed and trying to escape like others I held. And even if my finger was right in front of his face he didn't try to bite me. That can't be how they all are though?
Stormy
Keeper of scaley things.
I think the only way to tell if a snake will be friendly to you is to try it out. My snake, when I was in the store came right over to me, while the other few corns they had wanted nothing to do with me. My snake also isnt to fond of my roommate but will just hang out around my hand if I take it out. So it really depends on the snake and person.
Tracee
Grrrl
I think I've seen a few of threads on the subject come and go, if you search you might find some threads where people have detailed their experiences of morphs and aggression levels to see if there are any comparisons.
Corns on the whole have very good temperaments and that's why they're such a good "beginner" snake. Lucky for us they're beautiful as well! No you're right, they're not all docile, but the majority are
Just because you may not know - I didn't - a creamsicle is not a cornsnake morph, it's actually a hybrid (it has rat snake genes too). You'll find some folks don't like hybrids, or rather they don't like the misrepresentation of hybrids in pet shops etc, but as long as you're happy with your creamsicle, that's all that matters
Corns on the whole have very good temperaments and that's why they're such a good "beginner" snake. Lucky for us they're beautiful as well! No you're right, they're not all docile, but the majority are
Just because you may not know - I didn't - a creamsicle is not a cornsnake morph, it's actually a hybrid (it has rat snake genes too). You'll find some folks don't like hybrids, or rather they don't like the misrepresentation of hybrids in pet shops etc, but as long as you're happy with your creamsicle, that's all that matters
Interesting! I did not know that but it makes no difference to me.
I did look through the old posts and got my answer. Thanks
I did look through the old posts and got my answer. Thanks
I think I've seen a few of threads on the subject come and go, if you search you might find some threads where people have detailed their experiences of morphs and aggression levels to see if there are any comparisons.
Corns on the whole have very good temperaments and that's why they're such a good "beginner" snake. Lucky for us they're beautiful as well! No you're right, they're not all docile, but the majority are
Just because you may not know - I didn't - a creamsicle is not a cornsnake morph, it's actually a hybrid (it has rat snake genes too). You'll find some folks don't like hybrids, or rather they don't like the misrepresentation of hybrids in pet shops etc, but as long as you're happy with your creamsicle, that's all that matters
abell82
Senile Member
Miami's have brown saddles? Never seen one of those.
Makes me want to ask a few questions of my own....
So how many generations of line breeding two normally colored and genetically un related red rats would it take to get a Miami phase corn snake?
What geographical formations caused an isolation in the red rat population to cause red rats to become Miami phased?
Makes me want to ask a few questions of my own....
So how many generations of line breeding two normally colored and genetically un related red rats would it take to get a Miami phase corn snake?
What geographical formations caused an isolation in the red rat population to cause red rats to become Miami phased?