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Too early for double pinks?

Porro

Porro

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I got my baby corn from Petco towards the end of October. Since I got him from Petco, I'm not sure how old he was when I got him/how old he is now. I also didn't have a scale when I first got him so I don't know how much he weighed when I brought him home.

What I do know is that he is weighing in at a whopping 8 grams today :cheers:
So the main reason for my question is, I don't seem to notice the lump in him a day after his feeding, and he seems to be rather active the day after his feeding, instead of hiding for 2 days to digest like he used to do. Also, since I've had the scale he has only gained a gram of weight (weighed in at 7g on 12/28/09 and 8g on 01/23/10).

I looked at the Munson Plan, and yes I understand it is more of a guide and not an exact science......but I didn't know if I would/could hurt him by trying to feed him double pinks at 8 grams when its recommended not to do so until he is at least 16 grams.

As usual, thanks for your help/input!
 
I would try finding a larger pink if the food lump is gone that quickly. Pinks come in multiple sizes, from very tiny to fairly large. I feed mine medium sized pinks until they're about 10 grams, and then large pinks until 15, and then double pinks until 25 grams.

8 grams is still very very small though, just past pipping size.
 
If you search for the Munsen (sp?) plan he/she has up a feeding schedule that (from what I know) many follow around here. According to the plan, double pinks aren't recommended until 15-16G.
 
nickdolin said:
If you search for the Munsen (sp?) plan he/she has up a feeding schedule that (from what I know) many follow around here. According to the plan, double pinks aren't recommended until 15-16G.
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If you re-read the original post, you'd see that this person had already looked at the munson plan, but was wondering what could be done about how quickly the snake digests its meal out of fear that the meal is too small.
 
I switched mine to double pinks at 15g and continued that up to 30g. The Munson Plan seems to be fairly well praised around here so I chose to follow it and it hasn't let me down yet.
 
Do the double pinks get the snake ready for peach fuzzies, or fuzzies?

Peach Fuzzy:

5-9 days old, 3-4.5 grams, just starting to grow hair, eyes closed

Fuzzy:

10-13 days old, 4.5-7 grams, full coat of fur, eyes still closed
 
Shiari said:
I would try finding a larger pink if the food lump is gone that quickly. Pinks come in multiple sizes, from very tiny to fairly large. I feed mine medium sized pinks until they're about 10 grams, and then large pinks until 15, and then double pinks until 25 grams.

8 grams is still very very small though, just past pipping size.
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Hmm ok, thanks for your input. How big is a "small" pink and a "large" pink? I will double check but I'm pretty sure the pinks I am feeding him now are about 1g. Could I maybe try a pink and a half next feeding?

I don't want a fatty fat fat snake but like I said, his post feeding actions seem like he's hungry for more.
 
AFAIK, 1 gm pink is a small pink. If that's what you have, maybe your snake should get 2 of them, as larger pinks are more like 2-3 gms.
 
Nroc said:
Do the double pinks get the snake ready for peach fuzzies, or fuzzies?

Peach Fuzzy:

5-9 days old, 3-4.5 grams, just starting to grow hair, eyes closed

Fuzzy:

10-13 days old, 4.5-7 grams, full coat of fur, eyes still closed
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I would say yes, as I always move them up to peach fuzzies after double pinks which are 2-3g each, before moving onto regular fuzzies.

Porro said:
Hmm ok, thanks for your input. How big is a "small" pink and a "large" pink? I will double check but I'm pretty sure the pinks I am feeding him now are about 1g. Could I maybe try a pink and a half next feeding?

I don't want a fatty fat fat snake but like I said, his post feeding actions seem like he's hungry for more.
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I think 1g would be considered as small, 2g as medium and 3g as large pinks. I wouldn't double up until after moving up in size. The general rule of thumb, which was used before the Munson Plan was written (although that is a very good guide), was to feed a prey item that was no bigger than one to one and a half times the thickest part of your corn snake.

Corn snakes are opportunistic feeders and will, especially when young, be looking for the next food item quite quickly after feeding, this is just part of their make up. When in captivity, they get fed on a regular basis and they don't realise this, so they go looking for more food, in case the supply runs out and this is what you are seeing, when he goes into hunting mode so soon :)
 
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I personally don't even mess with weights of snakes and prey. Here's my fail-safe method:

Feed it a small pinky until you barely see a lump or no lump.
Move up to large pinks and feed until you don't see al ump.
Move up to fuzzies and feed until you don't see a lump.
Move up to hoppers and feed until you don't see a lump.
Etc, etc, etc.
Stop at large/jumbo mice. Even if they're big snakes, they don't need anything bigger than that IMO.

I've been doing it this way for 16 years now and have never had a problem. All my snakes are ready to breed after their 3rd winter. And its much easier as I'm not worrying about prey weights and what not.
 
Ok so the general consensus seems to be that I need to move up in pinky size and just feed a larger pinky to him.

The only problem with that is that I have about 50 of those small pinks (weighed again and they are 1g each) sitting in my freezer and (1) I don't want to be wasteful and just throw all of those away and (2) I'm broke right now and don't really have the option of buying larger pinks.

Sooo, do you guys think it would be OK if I just fed him two of the smaller pinks for now? That would add up to 2g of mice per feeding which seems to be what I need to be giving him right now. I would also slit them just to help make sure that he wouldn't have any problems with digesting the extra pink.

Good idea? Bad idea? Won't really make a difference?

Thanks again for your input.
 
Porro said:
Ok so the general consensus seems to be that I need to move up in pinky size and just feed a larger pinky to him.

The only problem with that is that I have about 50 of those small pinks (weighed again and they are 1g each) sitting in my freezer and (1) I don't want to be wasteful and just throw all of those away and (2) I'm broke right now and don't really have the option of buying larger pinks.

Sooo, do you guys think it would be OK if I just fed him two of the smaller pinks for now? That would add up to 2g of mice per feeding which seems to be what I need to be giving him right now. I would also slit them just to help make sure that he wouldn't have any problems with digesting the extra pink.

Good idea? Bad idea? Won't really make a difference?

Thanks again for your input.
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I am NOT an expert, but in your position, I would use the pinkies up 2 at a time since they are so tiny.
 
i'm no expert either, but try feeding your snake 2 pinks once if your baby does'nt have any issues keep feeding her 2.
 
Lets not loose sight of the fact that an 8 gram snake is tiny. TINY. The very worst thing you can do is feed the snake bigger prey or more prey than it can really handle. That is the very best way I know to cause a regurgitation. Feeding too a small pinkie will not hurt your snake. Feeding too big will. Hmmmm what to do, what to do?
 
wade said:
Lets not loose sight of the fact that an 8 gram snake is tiny. TINY. The very worst thing you can do is feed the snake bigger prey or more prey than it can really handle. That is the very best way I know to cause a regurgitation. Feeding too a small pinkie will not hurt your snake. Feeding too big will. Hmmmm what to do, what to do?
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Loud and clear.

3 pinks it is!:crazy02:
 
wade said:
Lets not loose sight of the fact that an 8 gram snake is tiny. TINY. The very worst thing you can do is feed the snake bigger prey or more prey than it can really handle. That is the very best way I know to cause a regurgitation. Feeding too a small pinkie will not hurt your snake. Feeding too big will. Hmmmm what to do, what to do?
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Would the OP be better off feeding a single pinky every 5 days for now? And then transition to two pinkies every 7 days?
 
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