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Too young for a larger tank?

Cyrinaluna

Cyrinaluna

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Hello all! Frequent lurker, infrequent poster :) just had a quick question about tank size.

Last I measured my Jones he was about 1'6" (growing up so fast! Was under a foot when I got him!) at the moment he's in a 15g zilla viv. In preparation for when he is bigger, I've been putting together a 40 breeder tank. Just need to finish the locking screen top and a few more fake plants and it'll be done (pics below). How soon can I move him into the bigger tank? Should I wait until he's bigger? Or can I move him once the top is finished? He may be growing like a weed, but he's still so little I'm afraid he would get stressed with such a large space.

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I don't think there is such a thing as too big of a enclosure, at least for most snakes. After all, in the wild the "enclosure" is positively huge! :)

What is important is that they feel secure. A big enclosure can feel secure as long as there are plenty of hiding places. Some artificial foliage, such as you have, can help because they will feel half hidden even when they aren't in a hide. The more "cluttered" the tank, the better, from their point of view.

I suspect that most of the problems that come from people having little snakes in big enclosures are due to having mostly bare tanks.

At worst, if he seems stressed, doesn't eat, or anything like that, you can move him back to the smaller enclosure.
 
kc261 said:
I don't think there is such a thing as too big of a enclosure, at least for most snakes. After all, in the wild the "enclosure" is positively huge! :)

What is important is that they feel secure. A big enclosure can feel secure as long as there are plenty of hiding places. Some artificial foliage, such as you have, can help because they will feel half hidden even when they aren't in a hide. The more "cluttered" the tank, the better, from their point of view.

I suspect that most of the problems that come from people having little snakes in big enclosures are due to having mostly bare tanks.

At worst, if he seems stressed, doesn't eat, or anything like that, you can move him back to the smaller enclosure.
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This

No such thing as too large an enclosure as long as cover and correct temp gradients are provided
 
kc261 said:
I don't think there is such a thing as too big of a enclosure, at least for most snakes. After all, in the wild the "enclosure" is positively huge! :)

What is important is that they feel secure. A big enclosure can feel secure as long as there are plenty of hiding places. Some artificial foliage, such as you have, can help because they will feel half hidden even when they aren't in a hide. The more "cluttered" the tank, the better, from their point of view.

I suspect that most of the problems that come from people having little snakes in big enclosures are due to having mostly bare tanks.

At worst, if he seems stressed, doesn't eat, or anything like that, you can move him back to the smaller enclosure.
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Yeah, pretty much all of this.
 
I have a 15g baby that I put in a 36x18x16 tank. I decorated it with several hides, some fake branches and vines.
Last night, I couldn't find him anywhere. Took the entire place apart looking for the guy till 2 in the morning. Then I had a hunch about one of the fake branches. I realized they were hollow. I broke the branch in half, and shined an LED light into the deepest, narrowest part of the branch and sure enough the guy was coiled up in there. He had squeezed through an invisible crack and found the perfect hiding place. I had to take some tools and carefully hack the branch to pieces till I could finally extract him.

Just wanted to share my experience of having a tiny snake in a huge vivarium. If anything, avoid those hollow branches.
 
7legion77 said:
I have a 15g baby that I put in a 36x18x16 tank. I decorated it with several hides, some fake branches and vines.
Last night, I couldn't find him anywhere. Took the entire place apart looking for the guy till 2 in the morning. Then I had a hunch about one of the fake branches. I realized they were hollow. I broke the branch in half, and shined an LED light into the deepest, narrowest part of the branch and sure enough the guy was coiled up in there. He had squeezed through an invisible crack and found the perfect hiding place. I had to take some tools and carefully hack the branch to pieces till I could finally extract him.

Just wanted to share my experience of having a tiny snake in a huge vivarium. If anything, avoid those hollow branches.
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Was it this hide? The one we here call the "log hide of horrors"?

http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61050&highlight=lost+found+jasper
 
Oh wow! I've got one hollow branch he can climb in. Guess I'll be plugging that up!


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