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two snakes same age one non feeder and non shedder?other getting huge?HELP?

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gregory

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hi there all, i really need help?
Ive got two corn snakes aged 3 months old ones a candy coen snake and is orange/red/whitey colour and the other a king daddy corn snake hes blAck/grey/white and checkered underneath.
The candy one hasnt shed since ive had it?the black has shed 4 times
The candy has never fed,ive had to force feed it since it was 6weeks as it refuses food no matter what!ive tried ,leaving it un disturbed for days,no joy,then left it in a sandwich tub with a pinky,no joy,sat for hours trying to get it interested,no joy. At the minute she eats the head,legs and some body all cut up, weve developed a routine SHE opens wont take but will let me push it down, i always try her normally before forcing her, shes tiny like a worm to my black daddy,hes huge! and now its been 13 weeks and she has never shed?the feeding i can deal with but im worried about the shedding? she has bathed herself a couple of times and her skin has always looked like its ready to shed since we had her,but never comes off?my big daddy shed today and the honeycomb pattern the skin is is like hers all over?
how can i get her to shed and feed by herself? some people have told me shes just a 'non-feeder' and i should put her in the freezer!but i refuse to do that, i dont mind feeding her but its not natural?
TRUST ME IVE TRIED EVERYTHING surely its not because of the other snake as theyve always been together, the pink one was sold to me at 2 weeks hadnt eaten but had shed apparantly?so confused, sniper just does it! check out my photo album and you can see the differences
 
You've already heard a couple of answers in your other post on the subject.
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125998

You should know that keeping Corns together is strongly advised against on this particular board and most folks will advise you to separate them first and then see if she continues to refuse food.

Unless you've done everything in the Feeding FAQ to which I previously linked, then there are still plenty of tips and tricks to try. Have you tried feeding overnight yet?

Also, have you checked the temperatures yet?
 
sorry ive allready heard replies but i would still like others opinions also, ive tries everything you suggested!theres nothing wrong with the temp, my blck one seems fine, alot of people are having these problems with single snakes, i dont htink its that at all.
 
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Hatchlings don't need to be fed til after their first shed which generally happens within 10 days of hatching. Unfortunately some babies just don't want to eat. Housing them together may ba a contributing factor, I tried housing my two adults together initially and the female just wouldn't eat til I moved her! I had a couple of picky hatchlings this year, here's what I did : put them in a old marg tub last thing at nite with a really hot pink ( defrosted then dunked into boiling water for a couple of seconds). Leave it overnight, no peeking. If no luck leave it a few days then you could try dipping the hot pinkie in tuna juice, leave overnight again. I would seriously try housing her separately and see how she does. Good luck!
 
You need you separate them. There is a lot of info on here about cohabbing and the negatve effects on the snakes.
 
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ok, will give it a go again, ive tried before for about 10 tens but no joy,she hardly moved, felt so bad for her so put her back and she was fine again but ill try anything at the minute,dnt wana lose her,had her nearly 4 months!
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If you havnt separated them you havnt tried everything. I would seperate them, leave completely alone for 5-7 days then try feeding a warm pink maybe dipped in tuna juice that worked for me. Good luck
 
Not moving is what snakes do! A still snake in a cosy hide is a happy snake. Constantly moving around the tank is quite possibly a sign of stress. I rarely see my corns even peek out of their hides till around 8 at nite. I would suggest moving her to a temp. house and leave her totally alone for at least 5 days then try the overnight feed in the marg tub idea. At this point isn't it worth a try?
 
marieK said:
Not moving is what snakes do! A still snake in a cosy hide is a happy snake. Constantly moving around the tank is quite possibly a sign of stress. I rarely see my corns even peek out of their hides till around 8 at nite. I would suggest moving her to a temp. house and leave her totally alone for at least 5 days then try the overnight feed in the marg tub idea. At this point isn't it worth a try?
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Great post. all I'd add is a strange tip that's worked for a few of us with reluctant hatchlings this year, boiled pink! After thawing, pour boiling water over the pink and wait for it to go pale and rubbery. Then put the hot pink in the feeding tub with the snake.
 
Like the others say I would seperate her before she becomes the other ones lunch. The size difference is too great now. Have you tried a live pinky, I think that live feeders is illgal in the UK(maybe mistaken) but that might be what gets her to eat.
Not every single animal thrives and does well in life, your little one may not ever eat.
 
I think that live feeders is illgal in the UK(maybe mistaken)
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Not so. There is currently no UK law which states that live feeding is illegal and nobody has ever been prosecuted for it under animal welfare legislation.
 
Gregory, hi!
I don't know who told you that snakes can live together, but whomever it was really does not know very much about snakes!
Snakes are solitary animals, and only come together to mate. They do not like sharing space with other snakes AT ALL. They might look like they are happy and cuddling, but they are really competing for resources. Your little one who is not eating is stressed and probably scared to death. And stess kills.

Imagine, if you will, the one person you can't stand. The one person you hate most in this world. Someone you want to stay farrrrrrrrr away from. Now imagine that you and this other person are locked in a room together, forever. No way out. Every second of every day all you want is to be left alone, but this person is there everywhere you turn. Now, you might "look" ok. You might even act ok. Maybe you can eat or maybe you are too upset to eat. But do you think that after a few years of living this way, that you would be healthy? This is what your snakes are going through, every minute of every day that you force them together. They might look ok to you, but in nature if an animal shows weakness, it is as good as dead. Please seperate them. It might already be too late for the little one, but even if it is, by keeping them together you are hurting the big one too.
 
Hello!
As I mentioned to your young'un a few days ago on another site, it's definitely best to separate them, and you'll likely notice that the one that's not feeding will take a meal rather quickly.
 
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