Upper Keys het amel blood red clutch!

[JM :o)]

She finally laid the eggs! 12~ just like I thought i counted last week. I was a little worried~ but all twelve look great~ and Mom already snapped down a couple rat pinkies!

Here are the parents~ both Upper Keys het Amel Blood Reds from Stephen~ can't wait to see these babies! (odd makers want to tell me what the odds of getting the magic cross of amel and Blood red is? 1/64 isn't it?)
Female

Dad

I'll post pics of whatever we get in two months!

 

[carol]

Congrats, sounds like a fun clutch. Your chances are really much better than that, 1 in 16.

 

[stephen]

Cool!

That is way cool Cheryl,I am glad you got a good clutch of eggs from them! I hope you get some bloodkeys corns from them,wtg! :cheers:

 

[JM :o)]

Pippies! And maybe a suprise!
Yesterday I had two normals out~ and all I could see where normal noses. Oh well next year right?

This morning I could see a red nose! Yippie!
Now I can see one more red nose too~
Hoping the red one was a blood red~ I patiently waited for the little beggar to exit the egg (Patiently~ yeah~ sure......patient.....it was killing me!) I tried to get a pic of it's belly but the pics won't come out (the LCD screen on my camera is broken so I can't tell what setting it is on~ I just push buttons~ take lots of pics and hope some come out!) Here are the pics I COULD get of the Amel (The belly looks clear to me~ but it's hard to tell with an Amel~ I'll try pics again later)

And while I was trying to get pics of the Amel~ look what I see! (you already spotted it's tail in the pic above didn't you?!)

Is that an Anery?!? Sure looks like one to me! So I got really excited~ flip that baby over.....

Not a blood red~ oh well. Still very cool! So far as I can tell of the 9 that have hatched only the Amel has a clear belly (and I'm not sure thats not just very light hatchling checks I don't want to see on the amels belly!) Several of them do have the line down the center that often indicates het diffused though.

So thats the update so far. Very exciting for me. Better than Christmas! (I'm not dreading the Credit Card bill every time I open the incubator like I am when I open Christmas gifts!)

Thanks Stephen! This is so much fun!

 

[JM :o)]

Another Anery looking baby has come out of the eggs. No more pics yet~ more tomarrow. I do have a question~

As I understand it~ the parents of my pair of hets where an Amel bloodred male bred to an upperkeys female. This made my animals outcrossed upperkeys het amel bloodred (with anery snuck in there!). These babies are F2 from breeding the siblings out of the original upperkeys female together. Should I call them "Outcrossed upperkeys Morph type (amel, anery, diffused, or classic) or should I call them Upperkeys Morph type (amel, anery, diffused or classic) like the Hypomelanistic Okeetee's are? I'm reasonably sure Hypo okeetee's had to have been outcrossed at some point to come up with the Hypo gene in the okeetee animals right?

 

[stephen]

woot!

Cool Cheryl,wonder what those snakes are? I suppose the amel is at least a amel keys corn and were did the anery come from post pictures when the others get out thats a cool clutch! :cheers:

 

[lefty_mussolini]

Woohoo. Congrats on a cool clutch
I hope some of these babies are still around on the 12th so that I can see them in person.

 

[rockmonky]

Congrats Cheryl!!!
I also cant wait untill the 12th to see them
Tim

 

[JM :o)]

I have more pics~ and I could use some help deciding what I'm looking at here. All the eggs have hatched~ final count was 7 classic, 3 anery, 2 amel. Now~ the questions is about the diffused gene. I expected if I hit on the diffused gene in the crossing the bellies would be nice and bright as they are in the Anery Motleys I hatched out earlier this year......but none do. Some have obviously "Normal" bellies~ some have apparently het diffused bellies with the striping down the middle~ and some appear to have checking to the outside on the front half of the snake and completely clear bellies on the bottom half of the snake??? Did I not hit on any homo diffused or am I not recoginising the diffused bellies because I have never hatched out diffused babies before this? None of them have the grey head I had expected to see~ not even as much as the hets I hatched in an unrelated clutch~ but that could be the upperkeys influence??

Pics~ the clutch bellies:

The Normals (Outcrossed upperkeys classics?)

Amels

Anerys

 

[carol]

This brings up an interesting question. I've never been big on locality, but I think when it comes to Keys, I am. Maybe since they come from an island I have a little more faith that they can make a unique strain. I call some of my animals "Keys Miamis" but don't mean to imply they are pure Keys. They are what they are, a little bit of Keys and a little bit of Miami Phase.
I would not sell them labeled as Keys, but maybe "Keys Outcrosses" or with X% of Keys blood in them. :shrugs: JMO

 

[Drizzt80]

Not any bellies that I would label as bloodred . . . definitely not in Murphy's favor with the percentages if that's the case! (You had just as much a chance to hatch out bloodreds as both the anery's and amels.) Of course, I am not familiar with Key's influence at all. :shrugs:

D80

Male is, Het for Snow, Het for Bloodred Pattern
Female is, Het for Snow, Het for Bloodred Pattern
Offspring are predicted to be...
NOTE: THIS IS A *PHENOTYPE RESULTS ONLY* REPORT
42.19%, Normal
14.06%, Bloodred Pattern
14.06%, Anerythristic
14.06%, Amelanistic
4.69%, Anerythristic, Bloodred Pattern
4.69%, Amelanistic, Bloodred Pattern
4.69%, Snow
1.56%, Snow, Bloodred Pattern