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We have hatchlings!

Fantomboo

Fantomboo

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If I have put this in the wrong area please let me know.

Ok so during the night and today I have hatchlings and they look great! There are still a few coming out of the eggs, but most are out.
My question; now that they have hatched what do I keep them in and do I need to seperate them. I have seen folks put them in deli cups but that seems a little mean. I know they do not like large spaces, so what is some advice that you can give me. This is my first go at taking care of hatchilings, so please be as detailed as you feel is needed. I want to make sure they get the best care they can. I am sure I am making this a bit more complicated than it really is, but with all things new you just never know.
 
Well that is all great and wonderful and everything...but....the question I have for you is...why didn't you get the basic answers to these questions BEFORE you decided to bring these babies into the world?
 
Wow! Did not think I would get a rude response. But here is what I had planned because I did do my homework and quite extensively. I was told these forums were great for information adn i wanted to check my idea against others and check what I had read.

My plan was to sepreate them and put them into 6 inch containers with aspen and small water dish. Keep the temp at 78 to 82 and feed them after their first shed. I am pretty sure I am right on, BUT as with all things in life NO ONE is ever the expert and EVERYONE can stand to learn a few things and tips. A wise man listens to counsel a fool only talks.

Thanks for the response though.
 
Fantomboo said:
Wow! Did not think I would get a rude response. But here is what I had planned because I did do my homework and quite extensively. I was told these forums were great for information adn i wanted to check my idea against others and check what I had read.

My plan was to sepreate them and put them into 6 inch containers with aspen and small water dish. Keep the temp at 78 to 82 and feed them after their first shed. I am pretty sure I am right on, BUT as with all things in life NO ONE is ever the expert and EVERYONE can stand to learn a few things and tips. A wise man listens to counsel a fool only talks.

Thanks for the response though.
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Good plan.
Sorry for the rude response but it irks me when someone has babies and asks really really basic questions, when they had the entire incubation period to "study up".
I bought Kathy's book, and pretty much reread it cover to cover every single year. Pretty much covers the basics and much much more....
But that's just me.
 
Fantomboo said:
Wow! Did not think I would get a rude response. But here is what I had planned because I did do my homework and quite extensively. I was told these forums were great for information adn i wanted to check my idea against others and check what I had read.

My plan was to sepreate them and put them into 6 inch containers with aspen and small water dish. Keep the temp at 78 to 82 and feed them after their first shed. I am pretty sure I am right on, BUT as with all things in life NO ONE is ever the expert and EVERYONE can stand to learn a few things and tips. A wise man listens to counsel a fool only talks.

Thanks for the response though.
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Hey what your planning sounds just fine. A nice small set up with heat and start introducing food after 1st shed. The hatchlings will be on there way in no time! :) good luck
 
I put mine immediately into shoebox-sized containers, with heavy ceramic water bowls (tiny) so they can't tip them over, on paper towels so I can mist them a little till their first shed. Lots and lots of people keep them together, but if one eats another, which they can and will do, then you lose two snakes. I'm not going to let that happen. I give them a bit of moss to hide in. After the shed, I put them on CareFresh with hides made out of egg carton sections. Like one snake gets two cups, or a quarter of the lid.

Some people use sandwich containers- those are a little bigger than deli cups. It's easy to melt holes with a soldering iron. I have one that is just a sharp point- no fancy tips or anything- I killed that one.

You don't feed them till after the first shed. They go blue in just a couple days after hatching, and the shed cycle is short. Unless you are dying to know, don't pop them until after about three meals, so they get established as feeders first. They should be able to take whole, tiniest pinks if they are 4g or larger.

Don't be mad at Beth; she's just saying what everyone else is thinking...
 
starsevol said:
Good plan.
Sorry for the rude response but it irks me when someone has babies and asks really really basic questions, when they had the entire incubation period to "study up".
I bought Kathy's book, and pretty much reread it cover to cover every single year. Pretty much covers the basics and much much more....
But that's just me.
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NP I should have been more upfront at first I just like to get all the info I can.
I am guessing you are talking about "The Corn Snake Manual"? I do not have that one yet my local B&N did not have it and all I could find on Amazon was used.
 
It's called Cornsnakes: The Comprehensive Owner's Guide. You also need Cornsnakes In Captivity by Don Soderberg. And then if you want to learn genetics, Cornsnake Morph Guide by Charles Pritzell.
 
Fantomboo said:
If I have put this in the wrong area please let me know.

Ok so during the night and today I have hatchlings and they look great! There are still a few coming out of the eggs, but most are out.
My question; now that they have hatched what do I keep them in and do I need to seperate them. I have seen folks put them in deli cups but that seems a little mean. I know they do not like large spaces, so what is some advice that you can give me. This is my first go at taking care of hatchilings, so please be as detailed as you feel is needed. I want to make sure they get the best care they can. I am sure I am making this a bit more complicated than it really is, but with all things new you just never know.
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I have to say, that based on your initial post, what Beth wrote was not necessarily rude. How I read your first post was that you have hatchlings, but don't know what to do next, & gathering from Beth's response, that's what she thought as well.
Had you explained further, in your first post, as you did in your next one, I am willing to bet that Beth's response would not heve been at all what it was.
Please understand that most of the responses here are in the best interest of the animals. And there are a lot of people who act first, then ask questions later, & it is frustrating, because it is the animals that suffer when that happens.

I am glad to hear that you did your research, & it looks like you have a pretty good game plan. The only thing I would do different, if it were me, would be putting them on paper towels, napkins or something, instead of aspen. I don't use aspen until they're juvs, but that's just me.

I (personally, in my limited experience) have found that I have better success is getting them to eat, when I put them in individual deli cups, with a tiny water container-some use the condiment cups, I have little pvc endcaps that were made into water dishes, that fit perfectly in the 8oz delis. *I use coffee filters in the 6 oz (& 6 inch) deli cups). Once they have at least 3 consecutive meals, I move them up to bigger bins. In my setup, I have the Ziplock Tagalong rectangle containers, for my hatchlings, until they get a bit bigger, then they move to shoe box sized.

Two other things....
1-Congrats on the babies!
2-where's the pics??
 
First, congrats on the hatchlings! Second, you have to excuse us, but if you re-read your first post, you basically say "I have hatchlings, now what do I do with them", which can easily be misconstrued. It would probably had been better to say "I have hatchlings, this is what I plan to do with them, and does anyone have any additional suggestions."

Your planned set-up for your new hatchlings sounds great to me! I can help you get a copy of Kathy Love's book...the original version, her newer book, Don Soderberg's book, the Morph Guide, plus more, directly from Kathy on her site CornUtopia. The books are close to the bottom of the page.
 
Fantomboo said:
NP I should have been more upfront at first I just like to get all the info I can.
I am guessing you are talking about "The Corn Snake Manual"? I do not have that one yet my local B&N did not have it and all I could find on Amazon was used.
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You (and the rest of us) are VERY lucky, as she is a member here! And nice as can be too. You can get it right from her.

nwheather said:
I have to say, that based on your initial post, what Beth wrote was not necessarily rude. How I read your first post was that you have hatchlings, but don't know what to do next, & gathering from Beth's response, that's what she thought as well.
Had you explained further, in your first post, as you did in your next one, I am willing to bet that Beth's response would not heve been at all what it was.
Please understand that most of the responses here are in the best interest of the animals. And there are a lot of people who act first, then ask questions later, & it is frustrating, because it is the animals that suffer when that happens.

I am glad to hear that you did your research, & it looks like you have a pretty good game plan. The only thing I would do different, if it were me, would be putting them on paper towels, napkins or something, instead of aspen. I don't use aspen until they're juvs, but that's just me.

I (personally, in my limited experience) have found that I have better success is getting them to eat, when I put them in individual deli cups, with a tiny water container-some use the condiment cups, I have little pvc endcaps that were made into water dishes, that fit perfectly in the 8oz delis. *I use coffee filters in the 6 oz (& 6 inch) deli cups). Once they have at least 3 consecutive meals, I move them up to bigger bins. In my setup, I have the Ziplock Tagalong rectangle containers, for my hatchlings, until they get a bit bigger, then they move to shoe box sized.

Two other things....
1-Congrats on the babies!
2-where's the pics??
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Yup, that is pretty much how I read your post. I have hatchlings, now what do I do with them? And I was like "is this person SERIOUS??"!! Glad you had a gameplan, and it seems like a pretty good one to me. I think paper towels is a bit better than aspen for the babies, as it is easier to find poops and possible regurges. Plus the reason they are put in delis is that it is easier to get them to eat if they are right on top of their food. They don't seem to mind either!

Susan said:
First, congrats on the hatchlings! Second, you have to excuse us, but if you re-read your first post, you basically say "I have hatchlings, now what do I do with them", which can easily be misconstrued. It would probably had been better to say "I have hatchlings, this is what I plan to do with them, and does anyone have any additional suggestions."

Your planned set-up for your new hatchlings sounds great to me! I can help you get a copy of Kathy Love's book...the original version, her newer book, Don Soderberg's book, the Morph Guide, plus more, directly from Kathy on her site CornUtopia. The books are close to the bottom of the page.
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Yup :)
 
Thanks for all the input. I am thinking that I like the idea of paper towles instead of the aspen.
Also after a reread of my original post it does sounds quite a bit vague
(Sorry) :(

As for the pictures i will be uploading them shortly.

Also thanks for the link to the page for the books.
 
The problem I have with paper towels is if they get just a corner into the water bowl, it wicks out all the water and soaks the hatchling. I like CareFresh because it is a little softer than aspen for sensitive baby skin.
 
Congrats on the new babies! Can`t wait to see the pics:)

BTW-nwheather- I LOVE the idea of coffee filters! I use paper towels and yes, they DO get in the water dishes. Thanks for that suggestion :)
 
Here is a couple of pics. These are double het for albino and motley is I understand the genetic thing right still learning a lot about that.
Dad is a Chocolate Het Albino; Mom is a Sunglow Motley

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Never heard of chocolate and albino can mean one of many morphs when being discussed by those who are not familiar with corns. In your clutch I see Normals aka Classics and Aneries. I would bet your male was a classic het anery and your female is an Amel (sunglow is a fancy selectively bred amel) motley is also het Anery. The babies are classics het snow mot and anery het amel mot. Congrats.
 
Oh he is a caramel, that changes things. Your male is Caramel het Anery and your female Amel Mot het anery so the babies are classics het caramel snow mot and anery het butter mot. Nice! Any plans to sell any of them?
 
I plan to sell most of them There are a couple I am looking to keep.
These are my first hatchlings and I am very new to the breeding part of Corn Snakes. I know just about nothing on the genetics of them I feel like there should be a college course on just the genetics LOL.
 
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