What is this morph?

[compasslogic]

My first reptile ever. I know so much about mammalian genetics and now I have a snake and all the terms are different, lol. Here he is:

Wow that photo looked fine on my phone but looks like terrible lighting here. I'll try to get some better ones.

But ok so definitely amel. Is this reverse okeetee, or does the white band around the colored bits need to be thicker for that? Is this creamsicle, or too red for that? Is this motley? Are the pinker areas going to fade to white as he ages?

So my guess is:

aaB-H-C-D-mmS-L-

the dashes are because I don't know any hets (look at me adopting all the lingo. "hets" lol )

 

[Shiari]

That is am amel. Definitely nowhere near thick enough in the borders to be considered an RO. As to creamsicle, it's hard to tell once they're mostly corn snake. It's not an early generation cross if it is one. Definitely not a motley. The ground color is going to gain color as it ages, and it is likely going to be a very pale orange adult.

 

[compasslogic]

Ok great. So if he's not RO, is he just regular okeetee? Is that how that works? And I thought creamsicle was just a lighter color. Is it a hybrid? Between corns and what else? Ok so it won't loose color, but will gain it. Interesting. I like orange much more than red, so I'd be very happy if he ended up as an orange adult

So the only non dominant thing going on is the amel "aa", but no other recessives unless they're heterogygous, correct?

 

[Shiari]

A regular okeetee would be a non-morph snake with thick *black* borders and vibrant oranges and reds. What he is is a regular amel, a bit paler than usual but not enough to be a candycane.

Creamsicles are amelanistic hybrids between corn snakes and emoryi rat snakes.

Corns pretty much always *gain* color. The only 'exception' is aneries who tend to hatch out a stark black and white, but have the sharpness of the black fade a bit and the white 'dirty' up with grays and browns.

So yes, the only recessive mutation being displayed by your snake is amelanism. Any other recessive mutations are in het form.

 

[compasslogic]

A regular okeetee would be a non-morph snake with thick *black* borders and vibrant oranges and reds. What he is is a regular amel, a bit paler than usual but not enough to be a candycane.

Creamsicles are amelanistic hybrids between corn snakes and emoryi rat snakes.

Corns pretty much always *gain* color. The only 'exception' is aneries who tend to hatch out a stark black and white, but have the sharpness of the black fade a bit and the white 'dirty' up with grays and browns.

So yes, the only recessive mutation being displayed by your snake is amelanism. Any other recessive mutations are in het form.

Ok great. Thanks for the help!

 

[compasslogic]

Just for fun I took some pics in sunlight today

 

[Myca]

I always love to take my snakes out in the sun to admire them. Yours is a little beauty and I enjoyed the photos. Thanks for sharing. Please post more as your baby grows.

 

[rolandslf]

Looking at the pics in the sunlight, I am leaning to a bit of Creamsicle influence here. I find that Amel tends to show more red than orange in hatchlings and as was correctly said earlier on, tend to colour up as they age.

 

[grizlatron]

very pretty!

 

[compasslogic]

very pretty!

Yay thank you