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What morph is this? Lots of pics

komodo_28

komodo_28

Rising Snake Addict
I posted a few picture of this snake a while back trying to find out what morph he is but the pictures were not great so I got some more pictures with a much better camera. He is going to be bred with an Amel in the spring so im hoping i will find some hets in him because I have no idea if he has any.

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Either a dark fire, a ruby eyed hypo bloodred or an ultramel bloodred. Very pretty!
 
I agree with Susan,..it appears to be a darkish "fire" (amel x diffused) aka bloodred to me. This coincides with the red eyes, no belly pattern and muted lateral pattern on the sides.


~Doug
 
ThorstenG said:
In my opinion it is a Motley, not a Blood!
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You may be right. I can't tell as the photos don't show the dorsal pattern well at all except for the rear part of the snake, and that's really "iffy" as to whether it's motley, but I can see where one or two spaces between the saddles are trying to indicate a circle. I would like to see a better photo where the full dorsal pattern stands out a little better before saying motley. It's going to be one or the other at any rate!
 
Thanks for the help! Here are a couple of pictures of his back. these are the best that I could get of his pattern.

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I think I could differentiate between blood and motley with a better belly picture- where I could look for clear areas.
 
Susan said:
Now I can see the motley pattern on his neck!
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Many normal pattern snakes have motley pattern on the neck.
There are even snakes with profound motley patterns that are not motleys (that is false motleys with belly checkers).

A pic on the side of the snake would be good, to see if there are any diffusion.
 
My initial thought is right with the others: Bloodred, probably amel or hypo (I'm leaning toward hypo, personally), and a good, clear picture of the eye would help clear that part up. As for motley or not, I can't even make out the pattern, lol!

Test breeding against a couple animals carrying Bloodred/diffused and/or Motley/stripe would tell you for sure if he's either (or both). Your plans for this spring (pairing him to an amel) should clear up whether he's Amel or some type of hypo--if all the offspring are Amel, then he's a really dark Fire (well--most likely; would still need to test breed against a Bloodred to know for sure); if there's any Normals in the clutch, then he's... Well, not Amel, at least! :p

He's definitely a VERY pretty snake, thanks for sharing! :)
 
He looks very much like the yearling at my breeder's house. Very pretty snake. It was pics like these that made me want a blood red. I was told mine was a diffused blood red, but I don't really care much because I am totally in love with him already. He does have a clear belly though. No checkers at all.
 
NiklasTyreso said:
Many normal pattern snakes have motley pattern on the neck.
There are even snakes with profound motley patterns that are not motleys (that is false motleys with belly checkers).

A pic on the side of the snake would be good, to see if there are any diffusion.
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But the pattern goes beyond just a few saddles on the neck. It extends to the 9th or 10th saddle and the shaping of the rest of the saddles also indicates motley rather than bloodred. With only a few saddles being able to be seen clearly in the first group of photos, it may have been attributed to simply some aberrant pattern, but with the additional photos, I say motley. The belly photos are also colored like I would expect a motley to be and not a bloodred. There is still the possibility it could be a motley blood.
 
I'm with Thorsten, I don't see anything that makes me think bloodred or diffuse. Looks like it could be a hypo motley, jmho :)
 
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