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What Would Go Nice With An Amel/Ultramel

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saphire1983

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Have a new little guy and want to start breeding corns, i am going to get a female at the weekend but dont know what i want to get, was thinking of getting a lavender as love the look of the opal corn!!! How popular are they though, as i dont want anything to popular due too selling them and would want them to go to goo homes :)

Proud owner of
1 boxer bitch
8 Bearded Dragons
1 Savannah Monitor
1 Amel/Ultramel Corn Snake
 
How popular are they though, as i dont want anything to popular due too selling them and would want them to go to goo homes :)
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It depends on the market for Corn Snakes near you and whether any other breeders are producing them. The market for Corn Snakes in the UK has been very slow for a couple of years. Things seem to be slowly picking up, but if you breed any at the moment you could have them for anything up to a year before they sell. Make sure you'll be able to house them and feed them. They can end up costing more money than you'll sell them for.

Check out your local reptile shops or breeders and see what's already on offer near you. You might find that there's a gap in the market for the Corns you want to produce. You might even find a good reptile shop who will buy all of your hatchlings. You'll get less money for them, but if you're just doing it for fun (and I don't know any hobby breeders who turn a profit) that can be a good outcome.

If you sell them privately, it can be a bit of a pain for a hobby breeder. Expect to have strangers wanting to visit and see your setup. If they're responsible buyers, then they'll want to check that they're getting Corns from a responsible breeder. Sometimes the vetting process can be a bit tricky, especially when faced with someone who wants to buy a Corn, whom you think don't think is suitable (lack of care, lack of knowledge etc).

Not trying to put you off, but there can be a lot of baggage that goes along with small-scale breeding. As long as you plan ahead for it, you'll be fine.
 
I understand the market thats no problem have been breeding beardies for two years but thought id try something new, i've had some beardies not leave me until 16months old, and im also very honest to someone if i dont think that they are suitable to care for a beardie/snake i wont sell to them. I have a caresheet that goes with my dragons and the same would be with the corns, i dont plan on breeding until next year or even maybe the year after just learning all the different morphs atm so many of them comapred to beardies!!! I originally wanted a royal as my mum had one when i was younger so i grew up with it, but my little syder caught my eye :)

Thank You for the advice though as i know from the bearded dragon breeding you get a few people that think its just putting a male and a female together and bang you have lots of babies that look very cute until they start eating, seperate tanks, heating, uv and think they are going to make £££'s from them and are very disapointed when they only get £10 for a dragon lol. I was just wondering what people think the best morph would be to put to my amel/ultramel i did think to get a lavender but i have seen that the opals and other white corns dont sell as much as others with patterns n more colour?? personally i love the opal stunning snake, i love how bright and in your face they are they truly do stand out to me :)
 
want to start breeding corns, i am going to get a female at the weekend but dont know what i want to get, was thinking of getting a lavender as love the look of the opal corn
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Amel or Ultramel will get you rather different results if you want to produce Opals. You need to know for sure what your current male is, so I suggest going back to his seller and getting a firm identification. Amel would be best for producing Opals with a Lavender.

Amel x Lavender will give you all Normals, het for Amel and Lavender. You then need to keep a male and a female, grow them to maturity and breed them. Normal het Amel & Lavender x Normal het Amel & Lavender will give you a 1/16 chance of producing an Opal. The rest will (statistically) be mostly Normals with some Lavenders and Amels, each with a range of hets.

Ultramel x Lavender will give you all Normals, all het for Lavender, with half of those het for Amel and half for Ultra. If you keep a male and a female, the outcome will be unknown as you won't know whether the ones you kept are het Amel, het Ultra or one of each. If they're both het Ultra or one is het Ultra and the other is het Amel, you won't have any chance of producing Opals.

If your current Amel/Ultramel is a hatchling and you buy a Lavender hatchling, it'll be three years before you can breed them and a further three years before you can breed their offspring. You're looking at a six year breeding project which - if you're lucky - will give you a one in sixteen chance of producing an Opal.

All of those are just the mathematical statistics. It's possible that in a clutch of 20 eggs in 6 years' time, you might get no Opals at all.

This is a really good site to play around with in order to predict morph outcomes of pairings:
http://www.corncalc.com/

i have seen that the opals and other white corns dont sell as much as others with patterns n more colour
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Whether Opals sell well, depends on where you live, what's being bred already near you and what sells well near you. There are no real generalisations that you can make. You just need to do the research for your circumstances.

If you already know that they don't sell well then it might not be a good idea to produce them. However things may change significantly in the six years it will take you to get to that point.
 
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