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where should i buy?
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susang
New member
On the opening forum page if you scroll down you will see various breeders and what the different colors, morphs and patterns are.
In answer to your question on the other thread. I would like to know what you learned about taking care of your snake. It would be my opinion that is more important then learning the genetics.
welcome, susan
In answer to your question on the other thread. I would like to know what you learned about taking care of your snake. It would be my opinion that is more important then learning the genetics.
welcome, susan
isaac124
New member
i think i have read that you never put a cornsnake or any snake around your neck? is this applying only if your not confidant that you can over power the snake and your with a buddy? or is there some other way that putting a snake around your neck can hurt it or you?
i've also read that you don't wanna handle a baby corn more then once every 2-3 days to be safe, and don't handle any corn more then once per day?
ummm always feed frozen - thawed mice do you have any tips on how to thaw the frozen mice so as to minimize smell or rottenness and grossness
also i was considering raising my own feeder mice, then euthinazing them myself to feed to my corn snake. is this a cheaper way to go? or is it only slightly cheaper but much more time intensive?
as for habitat i plan on using my 20 gallon tank with about 30 layers of newspaper for substrate i have a UTH already installed on the right side of the tank i was wondering if i need to put some other substrate or something like terrycloth dishdrying towels over the heater so as to distribute the heat a little more then just newspaper
is cleaning up feces more difficult with newspaper then with substrate? as in will i need to change all the newspaper every time he poops?
i also will use a small box with a hole in it over the heater side, and a reptile hide on the left side
perhaps i'll have some logs in there as well
so anything i'm forgetting or not aware of?
i've also read that you don't wanna handle a baby corn more then once every 2-3 days to be safe, and don't handle any corn more then once per day?
ummm always feed frozen - thawed mice do you have any tips on how to thaw the frozen mice so as to minimize smell or rottenness and grossness
also i was considering raising my own feeder mice, then euthinazing them myself to feed to my corn snake. is this a cheaper way to go? or is it only slightly cheaper but much more time intensive?
as for habitat i plan on using my 20 gallon tank with about 30 layers of newspaper for substrate i have a UTH already installed on the right side of the tank i was wondering if i need to put some other substrate or something like terrycloth dishdrying towels over the heater so as to distribute the heat a little more then just newspaper
is cleaning up feces more difficult with newspaper then with substrate? as in will i need to change all the newspaper every time he poops?
i also will use a small box with a hole in it over the heater side, and a reptile hide on the left side
perhaps i'll have some logs in there as well
so anything i'm forgetting or not aware of?
antsterr
Always mostly awesome
Putting a corn snake around your neck is not a danger unless the snake is stronger than you. Most people could wrestle a corn snake, no problem.
Many people say that you should handle baby corns because it stresses them, I say if they are eating ok then there is nothing to worry about. The sooner they get used to handling the better. And they will get used to it.
Thaw mice by placing them in bowl of warm water, they will be warm and ready to eat in now time. You're going to smell the mice smell but it's not going to be rotten. You can feed live but it's wise to only feed live food that is small enough not to have dangerous teeth yet (hoppers and smaller).
You can save money by breeding your own mice but I won't bother with it unless you have more than half a dozen snakes. It's more work and it won't save you much money on just one snake.
Newspaper is fine but 30 layers seems like a lot. You'll probably loose a hatchling in there because they like to burrow between the layers so the fewer layers you have the easier it is to find them. Aspen is easier to clean because you can spot clean poops out of it while news paper had to be totally replaced.
You don't need to worry about dispersing the heat, what you need to do is control it. The surface heat should be 80-85 degrees and no hotter. Putting towels won't give you lower a lower temperature. News paper is fine over a heater, just make sure you have a rheostat or thermostat to control the temp. A home made rheostat is a cheep and effective solution.
Many people say that you should handle baby corns because it stresses them, I say if they are eating ok then there is nothing to worry about. The sooner they get used to handling the better. And they will get used to it.
Thaw mice by placing them in bowl of warm water, they will be warm and ready to eat in now time. You're going to smell the mice smell but it's not going to be rotten. You can feed live but it's wise to only feed live food that is small enough not to have dangerous teeth yet (hoppers and smaller).
You can save money by breeding your own mice but I won't bother with it unless you have more than half a dozen snakes. It's more work and it won't save you much money on just one snake.
Newspaper is fine but 30 layers seems like a lot. You'll probably loose a hatchling in there because they like to burrow between the layers so the fewer layers you have the easier it is to find them. Aspen is easier to clean because you can spot clean poops out of it while news paper had to be totally replaced.
You don't need to worry about dispersing the heat, what you need to do is control it. The surface heat should be 80-85 degrees and no hotter. Putting towels won't give you lower a lower temperature. News paper is fine over a heater, just make sure you have a rheostat or thermostat to control the temp. A home made rheostat is a cheep and effective solution.
Checkerbelly
New member
No matter what you use for substrate, the snake WILL get under it and sit directly over the heater. As stated above, control the temperature. Make sure you have the probe of an indoor/outdoor thermometer under the substrate, over the heater where the snake will be.
I either use aspen or paper towels as substrate. Just do 1 or 2 layers of paper towels and replace them every time the snake poops.
Unless then snake is trying to eat you, it will only squeeze your neck as hard as it needs to to hold on. If it's scared it's going to try to hold on a little tighter. If the snake is scared, you shouldn't have it near your face anyway. If it is trying to eat you, you would know it because the snake's mouth would be attached to you.
Even then I doubt they could, or would, attempt to constrict something as big as your neck. They're kind of designed for constricting things the size of mice and rats.
I either use aspen or paper towels as substrate. Just do 1 or 2 layers of paper towels and replace them every time the snake poops.
Unless then snake is trying to eat you, it will only squeeze your neck as hard as it needs to to hold on. If it's scared it's going to try to hold on a little tighter. If the snake is scared, you shouldn't have it near your face anyway. If it is trying to eat you, you would know it because the snake's mouth would be attached to you.
Even then I doubt they could, or would, attempt to constrict something as big as your neck. They're kind of designed for constricting things the size of mice and rats.
susang
New member
I agree 30 layers of paper too much, but the temp should be 80-85 under the substrate not on top. Unless you have a thermostator rheostat, the temp right above the UTH can get as high as 100. You also need a gradient temp cool side, warm side. Aspen is a good substrae because the snake can burrow in.
As for raising mice I broke even at raising my own at around 6 snakes. Compared to snakes mice are labor intensive, requiring food, water...everyday.
New snakes should not be handled for 3-5 days, except to change water. There are people who handle a lot and people like me who handle hatchlings only day of feeding. The last thing you want is a non feeder, because of stress. I think you should read the stickies at the beginning of Health and Feeding before you get your snake. good luck, susan
As for raising mice I broke even at raising my own at around 6 snakes. Compared to snakes mice are labor intensive, requiring food, water...everyday.
New snakes should not be handled for 3-5 days, except to change water. There are people who handle a lot and people like me who handle hatchlings only day of feeding. The last thing you want is a non feeder, because of stress. I think you should read the stickies at the beginning of Health and Feeding before you get your snake. good luck, susan
jmksnakes
Ectotherm Addict
isaac124 said:
All great help & answers so far guys! This site is so great. :wavey: To answer your other question, two reputable breeders I'd recommend checking out is Don at SMR (www.cornsnakes.net) or the guys at MoReptiles (www.moreptiles.com). LOL
