Wildfarben het. Amel Anery Lava Caramel Bloodred x same

[mactopa]

Wildfarben het. Anery Amel Lava Caramel Bloodred x Wildfarben het. Anery Amel Lava Caramel Bloodred



I had two clutches of this pairing this year (total 19 eggs)

here are a few offspring from the two clutches:



Lavas

Fire

Snow and Avalanche (Caramel??)

Ice Blood

Lavamel Blood

and here a Topaz or Anery Topaz??? what do you think about it???

it is a male. I think he is to dark and the color looks like bright khaki than yellow

 

[cobained]

pretty babies! congrats!

 

[TalonaCat]

Awesome hatchlings!

 

[ecreipeoj]

Wildfarben het. Anery Amel Lava Caramel Bloodred x Wildfarben het. Anery Amel Lava Caramel Bloodred

I had two clutches of this pairing this year (total 19 eggs)

here are a few offspring from the two clutches:

and here a Topaz or Anery Topaz??? what do you think about it???

it is a male. I think he is to dark and the color looks like bright khaki than yellow

Topaz are very hard to photograph, but based upon the photos you provided, I would say Anery Topaz. He looks a little different than the Topaz that I have produced.

Congratulations on producing the Lavamel Bloodred, it is the first one I have heard of. He is obviously very different than the Fire you produced in the clutch and if you added a Lava Blood for comparison, you could easily see that the Lava and Amel combination is a detectible phenotype.

 

[Shiari]

Considering that anery caramels look mostly like aneries, I'm going to say that is most likely just natural variation in the topaz morph. There is so very much orange, and the eye is not gray.

 

[mactopa]

Topaz are very hard to photograph, but based upon the photos you provided, I would say Anery Topaz. He looks a little different than the Topaz that I have produced.

Congratulations on producing the La
vamel Bloodred, it is the first one I have heard of. He is obviously very different than the Fire you produced in the clutch and if you added a Lava Blood for comparison, you could easily see that the Lava and Amel combination is a detectible phenotype.

Thanks for your opinion joe I hoped to hear from you. I think also it is a anery topaz. It is really very difficult to photograph them. the patters are bright khaki and between it is not orange it is more like terracotta.

Considering that anery caramels look mostly like aneries, I'm going to say that is most likely just natural variation in the topaz morph. There is so very much orange, and the eye is not gray.

I think you can`t consider anery caramel and anery caramel lava. if you want to consinder than with anery amber.

In the eyes are little bit of grey and the animal seems like a grey veil.

 

[ecreipeoj]

Thanks for your opinion joe I hoped to hear from you. I think also it is a anery topaz. It is really very difficult to photograph them. the patters are bright khaki and between it is not orange it is more like terracotta.



I think you can`t consider anery caramel and anery caramel lava. if you want to consinder than with anery amber.

In the eyes are little bit of grey and the animal seems like a grey veil.

I am going to change my mind and agree with Shiari. Topaz are more golden than yellow which is caused by the orange of Lavas.

I don’t have any experience with Anery Caramels, but I do believe I have a Caramel Ice, which is gray with yellow instead of pink and Lava Eyes.

 

[mactopa]

oh thanks, have you a pic from the possible cara ice?

 

[ecreipeoj]

oh thanks, have you a pic from the possible cara ice?

OK, for you.

I actually have a similar project to yours going, with a little different genes involved, but able to produced Topaz Bloodreds, which was my goal and perhaps yours. I ended up with Project Corns that were het for six different genes.

Here are some interesting 2010 hold back morphs from two females from a Het Lava Caramel Anery Lavender Bloodred Strawberry X Same breeding.

The Corn I was thinking about is the light “Ghost” like morph in the bunch. I think she is a Caramel Ice, but I haven’t identified the two light colored morphs in the photo. The “Caramel Ice”, actually doesn’t have any pink or yellow, so I was mistaken about the yellow. I guess that is what Carmel Anerys look like and we should expect in Caramel Ice, or would it be Ice Caramels?

This Project was started by a breeding loan with Rich H. He bred a Caramel Bloodred to my Lava het Anery female, so I could start a Topaz Bloodred Project. Last year many hidden genes were revealed. I contacted Rich and the Caramel Bloodred he used was from his “Mystery Line”, and was a Caramel Bloodred het “Hypo” Lavender. I think the Hypo I got in the mix is Strawberry instead of Hypo which may be some of the confusion with the Mystery Line.

I think the “variation” that we are seeing between our clutches is the on/off presents of Redcoat. Normal common Morphs from our gene pool do not normally carry Redcoat. The Lava line is one of the lines we can find Redcoat in and really makes a Lava stand out including the combos with Lava. They are all brighter and shinier.

Possible morphs in the photo included Redcoat Lava Bloodred, Topaz het Bloodred, Strawberry, Strawberry Lavender, Ice Caramel het Bloodred, and Strawberry Caramel Lavender, all females. The last two are just guesses.