zigzag x stripe

[Tiras]

I'm very curious, how this should look like ?
Thanks

 

[ghosthousecorns]

You would get normals het for stripe. Some may have zigzags.
Zigzag is a selectively bred look and stripe is a genetic trait. The best zigzags come form two parents with strong zigzag lines and I feel adding striped gene would not be helpful to get more zig zags, nor would a zigzag snake be useful in a striped project.

 

[Tiras]

You would get normals het for stripe. Some may have zigzags.
Zigzag is a selectively bred look and stripe is a genetic trait.

I'm aware of that.
I'm curious about the second generation. How these two traits combine? Would I lose the zigzag trait or it will steel affect the pattern?

 

[ghosthousecorns]

I think if a snake was homozygous for stripe, any zigzagging in it's background would not show anyway. And in the case of a zigzag I don't think being het for stripe would change or improve the quality of the zigzagging.
It's two different things... I personally feel as an experiment it would kind of be a waste of time. But by all means my opinion is not the last word!

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

I think if a snake was homozygous for stripe, any zigzagging in it's background would not show anyway.

You are correct.

 

[Jessicat]

You must have missed KJ's thread on his Wide Stripe Zig Zag project.

http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71539

Note that he has spent many generations to achieve this look. As stated above you will not get these results just by mixing a Stripe and a Zig Zag right off the bat.

 

[Mrs InsaneOne]

You must have missed KJ's thread on his Wide Stripe Zig Zag project.

http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71539

Note that he has spent many generations to achieve this look. As stated above you will not get these results just by mixing a Stripe and a Zig Zag right off the bat.

I don't believe that project has anything to do with the 'striped' gene though. I think it has more to do with selectively bred Aztecs/Zig-zags that produce those patterns. Maybe KJ can jump in here and add a bit more info.

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

You must have missed KJ's thread on his Wide Stripe Zig Zag project.

Note that he has spent many generations to achieve this look. As stated above you will not get these results just by mixing a Stripe and a Zig Zag right off the bat.

If you look at all of the photos, you can tell KJ's Wide Stripes/Zig-Zags are not the result of the recessive Stripe gene. Some of them have very obvious banding which will not appear if a snake is homozygous Stripe.

Now if the original poster was talking about mixing KJ's Wide Stripes/Zig-Zags with a Zig-Zag, it would be another story.

 

[Sharon]

I bred a snow het lav and a lav het snow and neither had any zigzagging and half the babies have awesome zigzags. Would that be selectivly bred in any way?

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

I bred a snow het lav and a lav het snow and neither had any zigzagging and half the babies have awesome zigzags. Would that be selectivly bred in any way?

Zig-Zag in Lavenders is not unusual.

I'm of the opinion that some Zig-Zags are from selective breeding, others from incubation and others just pop up in different lines (like Lavender).

We use the blanket statement "Zig-Zag is selective breeding" because it is not recessive, co-dom or dom. Most of the time people that work with Zig-Zag do selective breed to reproduce the look.

 

[Sharon]

All right, thanks, was just wondering how it would be classified.

 

[Tiras]

Thanks for the responds,
I now understand such project would probably be a waste of time.

You must have missed KJ's thread on his Wide Stripe Zig Zag project.

Thanks to you, I watched that thread and enjoyed the beautiful corns.