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Considering my first "hot."

Chip

Chip

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Well, technically, it wouldn't be. I keep hognosed and have kept false water cobras, so I'm pretty much an old hand at hots. I think in 2009 I want a cobra.
 
:rofl: Okay, I mostly kid! I have collected and "kept" timber rattlers, copperheads, and worked a little hands-on with other keepers hot stuff. Animals ranging from Gaboons and cobras -to pigmy, (not a typo, how we spell 'em in NC)and little lep. rattlers. But I've never worked with them in my home more than a few weeks. But I am now really intrigued by a species of cobra. What I'm interested in is the "Cape" Coral Cobra (Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus). I'm conflicted on the venom properties after some 'net research, but I'd treat it like a bite would kill, regardless.
I'd seen this some time ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDyWy5uHUKA

And then kept hearing and seeing more about them. I swear, these animals that I've never even seen in person and pigmy rattlers probably top my "want" list right now, outside of hoggies. Anyone ever worked with either?
 
I can't say that I've ever really worked with hots, other than transporting from a capture location to a release site. The very tippy top of my hot want list is an Albino Monocled cobra. The species does look very interesting, and I look forward to living vicariously through you and learning from your experiences. :D
 
I'll keep you updated if I decide on these. Some sites say they are practically non-venomous, others say it varies from population to population... Also an image search will show some that are very pretty and others that, well, are just okay. Appearance variation can be said for pigmy rattlers, too. And I'd need a license in my state to keep those.
 
If I was going to get a hot, I'd want a big fatty slug of a Gaboon viper. I would name her Jabba.
 
Those and rhinos scare me. That big, fat (deadly, loooong fanged) slug can move so, so fast! They are beautiful, though. No denyin' that!
 
Hots are awesome, to be sure... but man. I know I don't have near the diligence to be able to work with one.

There is a guy on here who owns his own reptile education company, and does shows for schools and other such events. He works with hots in addition to non-venomous species-- but for the life of me I cannot recall the guy's screen name!! Hopefully he will pop on here and give you some advice.

If I were going to get a hot, I'd probably go with a Copperhead. They are so beautiful! And the anti-venom is common in this part of the country. I also have to say that I really love western timber rattlensakes as well-- there are a lot of morphs of them that are gorgeous.

Have you checked out the venom section of FaunaClassifieds? Lots of pics and info there!
 
Hypancistrus said:
There is a guy on here who owns his own reptile education company, and does shows for schools and other such events. He works with hots in addition to non-venomous species-- but for the life of me I cannot recall the guy's screen name!! Hopefully he will pop on here and give you some advice.
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Jeff Mohr?? Who BTW had the most adorable cobra hatchlings in the history of the universe this year?
 
Hypancistrus said:
There is a guy on here who owns his own reptile education company, and does shows for schools and other such events. He works with hots in addition to non-venomous species-- but for the life of me I cannot recall the guy's screen name!! Hopefully he will pop on here and give you some advice.
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I believe you are thinking of Jeff Mohr, Mohrsnakes. He does educational shows and works with hots. Another person who has hots is the snake guru. He has a pretty cobra albino monocle cobra
 
Seriously, you know what I'd want, if it was feeding on rodents and healthy? A coral snake. I love them.
 
Nanci said:
Seriously, you know what I'd want, if it was feeding on rodents and healthy? A coral snake. I love them.
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lol I bet you could keep one too.. Miss "I love touching Sleeping Alligator's tails while they sun themselves". But instead, get yourself a scarlet king or scarlet snake, have you not seen one in the wild yet?
 
elrojo said:
:rofl: Okay, I mostly kid! I have collected and "kept" timber rattlers, copperheads, and worked a little hands-on with other keepers hot stuff. Animals ranging from Gaboons and cobras -to pigmy, (not a typo, how we spell 'em in NC)and little lep. rattlers. But I've never worked with them in my home more than a few weeks. But I am now really intrigued by a species of cobra. What I'm interested in is the "Cape" Coral Cobra (Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus). I'm conflicted on the venom properties after some 'net research, but I'd treat it like a bite would kill, regardless.
I'd seen this some time ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDyWy5uHUKA

And then kept hearing and seeing more about them. I swear, these animals that I've never even seen in person and pigmy rattlers probably top my "want" list right now, outside of hoggies. Anyone ever worked with either?
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I'm always hesitant to get involved in these threads because you just don't know what people are and are not capable of, and you hate giving advise in situations such as that...LOL But since it seems like you have some experience in the matter I'll offer my thoughts.

I can see your draw to these small and beautiful "pseudo cobras" Aspidelaps lubricus lubricus especially is one of the more beautiful ssp. As with any venomous snake you should treat it as though your life depended on it. Which in all honesty it probably will, the toxic properties of this snake are just as potent and medically significant as other venomous snakes....it's only saving grace being the size of the snake, so there is much less venom present. Even so deaths from this species have been reported so it should not be taken lightly.

On the plus side, this is a small snake, 18" being about the max. Given that stature you should easily be able to stay out of striking distance unless you are doing something you shouldn't be.

These are also hot loving, and burrowing snakes, so a deep substrate is recomended, also they tend to key on lizard prey, so if you don't want to deal with that you should ask before getting one,making sure it is already eating non scented rodents.

~B~
 
Did you ever consider a venomoid? I would love a hot (albino monacle or albino dimondback) but with children in the house I wouldn't dare. Plus I have children always playing in the neighborhood and if it ever escaped and bit one I couldn't live with it. I was looking on venomoidinc.com and they have some nice animals at pretty reasonable prices, considering a vet had to perform the surgury. They provided a rattlesnake for the discovery show "I was bitten" so they could do the reenactment without someone getting envenomated.
 
danny819 said:
Did you ever consider a venomoid? I would love a hot (albino monacle or albino dimondback) but with children in the house I wouldn't dare. Plus I have children always playing in the neighborhood and if it ever escaped and bit one I couldn't live with it. I was looking on venomoidinc.com and they have some nice animals at pretty reasonable prices, considering a vet had to perform the surgury. They provided a rattlesnake for the discovery show "I was bitten" so they could do the reenactment without someone getting envenomated.
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Boo Hiss.....Venomoid is worse than cursing....
 
Did you ever consider a venomoid?
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If you can't keep a snake the way it is, than you shouldn't be keeping the snake at all.

Not that I'm going to get into it too much, but there have been no studies done on the long term effects of a venomous snake deprived of venom in relation to the health of the snake. There is strong edvidence to support venom plays a key role in the digestive process and there-fore this type of ill concieved and idiotic practice may actually cause shorter life-spans and/or other health issues to the snake.

~B~
 
Nanci said:
If I was going to get a hot, I'd want a big fatty slug of a Gaboon viper. I would name her Jabba.
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:rofl: Sounds like a name I'd use (notice...I have 3 animals with Star Wars names...I'm a giant nerd....)!!

If I were to get a hot, I'd want an eyelash viper or a Canebrake rattler (top 2 picks). Or possibly a sedge viper or a Western diamondback (either albino or patternless). But I'm no where near ready to be taking care of hots, I've got years before going down that road (if ever...).
 
If I were to get a hot...it would probably be either a black mamba or a monacle cobra :0) Both are just gorgous to me
 
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