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Keeled's Scales 2014 Hatchling Thread

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Mitchell Mulks

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Hello everyone! Well, I'm taking a page straight out of Steve Roylance's posting technique. Steve and I have been yapping about how it's just the best to have all of one year's hatchlings associated with one thread; that way all you have to do is find the post and enjoy that person's season. Seeing as how every year I wait with avid anticipation for Steve's hatchling pics, I thought I'd share my hatchling photos with all of you using the same format. Thanks for the idea Steve and I hope you don't mind me parasitizing your intellectual property!

6-8-2014

After 67 days in the egg I have my first hatchling of 2014!

There's an interesting story behind this clutch, and everyones input is absolutely wanted. Carol Huddleston from Low Belly Reptiles sent me a first-time breeder female on loan to test what the heck she is. She appears to be a charcoal motley to the naked eye, but at the very least is 66% ph anery, or even more likely a homozygous charcoal anery motley. Carol was hoping I had a male that was 100% charcoal that I could test breed to her to reassure her that she was in fact homozygous charcoal.

The male I was going to use was a redcoat striped bloodred 66% ph charcoal. However, he's only three and totally wussed out on any breeding this year. Instead I bred this virgin girl to an established breeder; I used a bloodred het amel anery stripe ph charcoal. While both anery-type genes could possibly be in the mix, I should be able to tell whether the female is homo or het for anery, and whether or not my male is het charcoal.

Well, this is all good...for those that aren't colorblind!!!! :roflmao:

Below is my first hatchling of the season. To me it looks like a charcoal. If it is it at least proves my male is het charcoal and that the female is at the very least het charcoal too. I'm using the dark ground color and blue eyebrows as indicators as it being charcoal. I've never hatched an anery with that dark of ground color, nor with the blue eyebrows.

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A closer look...

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Even closer...

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Here's the snake in question with it's sibling motley counterpart.

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Here's two pics of the second hatchling here at Keeled's Scales; a gorgeous little motley.

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Please, let me know if you think that that's at the very least a homo-type charcoal morph. I believe it is...but then again I am colorblind!
 
That is most definitely a baby charcoal! The blue eyebrows and low-contrast head are spot on. :D
 
Megan, thanks for your reply. I'm really glad you replied, because I know many of your projects involve charcoal. The hatchling's low contrast really did scream charcoal, but seeing as how this would be my first charcoal hatchling I need as much input as possible. I think the last time we spoke at the Sac show you said you had multiple charcoal anery morphs...does he look like he might also be homo anery, or does it look solely charcoal to you. I expect a charcoal anery to have more definition.
 
The charcoal-aneries can really vary from what I've seen, but the few that I've hatched out leaned more towards the charcoal spectrum. I don't *think* that one is anery too, but I don't have enough experience to feel confident.
 
Mitch,
Looking good…. Any possibilities of more Lava Butters this year?

Take care!

Orlando
 
Awesome Mitch, looking forward to your baby season
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Thanks! Well, the pouring of hatchlings is now beginning. Yesterday there was only one clutch pipping...now seven.

Mitch,
Looking good…. Any possibilities of more Lava Butters this year?

Take care!

Orlando
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Yup, I should have a few that I'll be letting go...but that's as long as Murphy and I are on good terms!
 
A blizzard and a dose of honey

6/10/2014

Well, it's settled, the first clutch of this thread is producing nothing but charcoal. So it seems that the female isn't het anery, but my male is in fact het for both anery and charcoal (cool, but a bummer too...I hate having both of those genes in the same snake!). The surprise here to is that the female just turned out to be het amel! I've never hatched a blizzard...so this snake was a nice surprise.

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Also hatching today is a clutch that will at the very least be 100% honeys. I paired my saffron het motley to a honey ph amel motley. Both snakes were produced by Steve, so I'm hoping the female has both hidden hets. As of right now I only see four honey snouts, but that's not to say there isn't a saffron or saffron motley somewhere in there!

Btw, the hypo effect is really strong in these honeys; you can really see the pink where the black should be in the close-up!

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Very cool, Mitch! Those look like some nice Honeys
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I appreciate it Danny! Yeah, at first I thought they might be lemons, as Steve does have some hypo in his honey colony. However, the more I look at it it looks like a VERY hypo-ized honey. Darn, I thought I was finished holding back honeys! :sobstory:
 
Really?! The saffron I got from you, is he from a line that has hypo in it? Same for the honey female? That one is pretty darn bright to me.
 
Yes, I believe the original male I used to start the whole Honey/ Saffron project was a Hypo Butter (Het Motley).
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Shoot, now I have to breed my saffron to a hypo to confirm. Thanks for all the extra work next year! Haha. :poke:

I wonder if the male is actually a hypo saffron? It'd be cool if he was.

Looks like a great start to your year Mitch!! Can't wait to see what else you hatch.
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Thank you. I have over 60 clutches in the cooker, with some that should produce some really cool F1's and other unique morphs (tessera honeys are a real possibility).
 
Lemons and Honey

So, it appears that both the male saffron and female honey I purchased from Steve a few years back are both het hypo. So far out of 9 slit eggs, 3 are lemons! I was aiming to prove that the female was het amel or motley from this pairing, but instead I was greeted with a morph I wasn't expecting. So far no motley- and/or amel-types have hatched yet.

Here's a pair of lemons with their honey sibling.
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The first lemon to leave the egg.
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Snout almost out of the egg for the third lemon...it's taking it's time! Notice the honey pipping just above it.
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Mitchell Mulks said:
Thanks Walt. Sometimes I think the revelation of hidden genes is almost more fun than hitting the target! Almost......
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Yeah, I know what'cha mean. Those hidden unknown genes can toss a monkey wrench in a project fast !! :headbang:

But then again, it can sometimes make it better. :dancer:

Walter
:crazy02:BOUT' CORNS !!
 
Those are really pretty. I think it will be hard to beat the colors on a good honey, but those sure are pretty as babies.
How are the Kisatchie silver leafs doing? Any updated pictures?, thanks, Brad
 
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