oringal stock bloodred X pure okeetee

Vinman · May 11, 2007

here are 3 of my orgnial bloodred X pure okeetee they are a F2 brother sister cross and are possable het bloodred . I breed them to her dad who is the fist gen cross..to prove them out. I did not breed #3 this year next year will be her time .

set is of female #1

Vinman · May 11, 2007

here is female #2

snakemad · May 11, 2007

the snake colour is lovely

Vinman · May 11, 2007

this is female #3 Even though she is half, she is very close to what a pure hastings looks like. the hastings are a little more red than her and I mean a little, remember they are F2 brother sister cross.

snakemad · May 11, 2007

the are all lovely

Vinman · May 11, 2007

I put these up so people would see how come a old school bloodred has such a subdued pattern. It is the base stock that makes the origanal bloodreds look so uniform in color

diamondlil · May 11, 2007

So do you mean that the okeetee made less diffusion but a brighter colour?

Vinman · May 11, 2007

diamondlil said:
So do you mean that the okeetee made less diffusion but a brighter colour?

Hi D girl. No I used the okeetee because it had a subdude pattren hardly no black pattren excpet the belly and was saturated with color top and bottom . His belly color went up to the chin. solid all the way up about 2 inches from his chin. the last 2 inches up to the chin was splotched with deep color. He is more of a deep orange/mohogney in color. He got that from his grandfather a F1 okeetee who was mohogony with very little black in the dorsal. with a deep coral orange/red belly . the color on the belly went up 3/4 of the belly. His and his father was deep bright red F1 okeetee with verry little black in the dorsal. Both the father and the grand father were both F1 okeetees with very litle black on the back and a subdude pattred.

The okeetee male I used in the cross had a subdude pattren hardly no black pattren excpet the belly and was saturated with color. It was a pure corn and wanted to keep a a strain of bloods that were pure corn and had the suddude pattren and deep red color that made them famous.

SnakeAround · May 12, 2007

How can okeetee's have hardly any black? They must be locality okeetee's then?

diamondlil · May 12, 2007

Blutengel said:
How can okeetee's have hardly any black? They must be locality okeetee's then?

Now I'm more confused, I thought the bold pattern was part of the original usp for corns found in the okeetee region?

SnakeAround · May 12, 2007

I mean that if it is not an okeetee phase by judging it's color (it has little black dorsally), and Vinman calls it an okeetee, the reason for that must be that it is a locality... but I do see why I confused you.

diamondlil · May 12, 2007

No I confused myself!
:wavey: Vinman, is it a locality okeetee?

Vinman · May 12, 2007

I did put F1 in front of okeetee. That tells you that it's parents were wild

Yes and no, locality is a tricky word when talking okeetee. They are jasper Co. okeetees but the are not local specific within jasper Co or within the club . The club is huge and has owend and sold land all over the county. It stills leases land to hunting clubs.To this day you can find a old okeetee no trespassing sign's on other hunting clubs lands

Yes the grand dad parents were caught on okeetee land. in the same place ??? don't know but they were caught on the club .

The fathers parents was caught somewhere around the club, if in not on the club then around the boarders of the club. but his parents were caught together under the same piece of tin

SnakeAround · May 12, 2007

Thanks for the explanation!

diamondlil · May 12, 2007

Blutengel said:
Thanks for the explanation!

Ditto! (message too short)

Vinman · May 12, 2007

Ok grils I was waiting for him to shed. I can't belive nither one of you asked me to post the F1 cross pure okeetee X pure old stock bloodred Well here he is. This is daddy to the three girls in the thread.

diamondlil · May 12, 2007

When you say 'old stock blood', where do they come from originally?

Vinman · May 12, 2007

Old stock . Pure bloods 100% Eiddie Leach stock The orginal strain before they were outcrossed into high contrast base stock. When the best ones were deep bloodred and pattrenless. Not the crap that is on the market to day. they dont look like the bloods I know. Verry few That I have seen That look like the old stock I have explained this many times before about how the orginal strain come from a subdude pattren base stock. Alot of these color morphs bloodreds will have to be out crossed into some realy hi quilty bloodreds or some screaming stock with subdude pattren. I'm fighting 2 diffrent battles with all my bloodred stock. Making color morphs bloods as well as inproving the base stock. I will post anothe pic of a desent bloodred . He is a outcross. He is a little less red than his outcrossed father but still nice. He is realted to the fire stripe female. He is skinny right now all he want to do is breed.

diamondlil · May 12, 2007

Didn't the bloods get outcrossed to add vigour to the line, because of small clutch size and non-thriving hatchlings?

diamondlil · May 12, 2007

(Not that I'm implying any problems with your stock, you know I'm just asking so I get things straight in my own head)

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