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2 cornsnakes in 1 cage?
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CornCrazy
What's one more???
Just wanted to add a note about the 20 gallon longs...they aren't always big enough. They tend to work well for most corns, but some corns do get big enough to need something larger. I have a few that are definitely too large for a 20 gallon long. I had to move them into larger enclosures. The 20 gallon longs should give you several years of use before you might have to go to something larger, though. Just wanted to mention that sometimes some of them don't fit into the "standard."
Knight_errant
New member
I've had my male and female snow corns for 4 years now and they've always lived together. Of course they are brother and sister too, so not sure if they sense that or not. Some animals are very attuned to siblings, some not at all. They have always cohabitated fine. Never had a single problem.
I'm almost certain they are from the same clutch, they are male and female, and they are roughly the same size. I have them both in a 50 gallon viv with a large waterfall on the left, a full daylight 100W heat lamp over an imitation tree branch in the center and two separate imitation stone caves (hides) on the right side and another longer imitation tree branch from center to right. Spread throughout the enclosure are a few large artificial plants that they sometimes like to hide in. The substrate I normally use is green indoor/outdoor carpeting cut to size. (trying Reptibark now to see how they like it) The heat lamp I have plugged into a timer so they get 12 hours on, 12 hours off on a regular day/night cycle. All of this mounted on a beautiful enclosed wood stand with doors for miscellaneous snake supply storage.
Sometimes they will stay in the same cave. Sometimes in separate caves. Sometimes one in a cave and the other in the leaves or behind a cave. Sometimes both of them hidden in the leaves or behind the same or different caves. There is plenty of room for them to move around, climb and explore, a large pool for them to bathe if that is what suits them and they can sleep/rest wherever they feel the most comfortable. As I said, I've never had any problem with either of them.
I feed them either f/t or brained adult mice depending on available supplies and give them purified water from a Pur brand tap water purifier (same stuff I drink)
The most difficult task is of course, cleaning their habitat. Occasionally they will take a dump in the waterfall and that's time-consuming to remove and clean. In spite of my best attempts at scrubbing with soap and water, minerals still built up on the waterfall, leaving it a bit discolored. If it gets too bad, I'll take it out and substitute with a regular water dish while I use other means to try to remove the deposits, then replace it after it's been very thoroughly cleaned of all traces of chemicals. The astroturf made general cage cleaning a breeze as I generally keep a couple extra pieces cut to fit. Not sure about this Reptibark yet, but they seem to like burrowing into it and are not using the caves as often. Just another option for them. Overall, the general cleaning is not too difficult, just takes a couple hours about every other week, a little more if they mess in the waterfall. Hey, it's a labor of love.
Some people like to keep it simple. Some people like extravagant. Do the snakes know the difference? I don't know, but I enjoy seeing snakes in a natural environment and provide mine with the closest thing I can. Not everyone can afford such a setup (mine cost almost 700 dollars). I would recommend reading as much as possible about keeping snakes in captivity and provide the best habitat you can at the time. Some people use newspaper as a substrate, some use small cardboard boxes as hides or a flat stone resting on smaller stones tilting up toward the back of the cage. A perfectly healthy, happy home can be provided for next to no cost, and you can always buy or build more as money and time become more available to you.
As with anything you might want to do in your life, it is always best to first do your research and take action based on informed, planned decisions to minimize any potential problems. Okay, with that last, I detect my military supervisory training mode starting to kick in and risk assessment lecture gearing up so I shall end this rather abruptly before I bore you to tears. LOL
Above all, love your snakes.
Erik
I'm almost certain they are from the same clutch, they are male and female, and they are roughly the same size. I have them both in a 50 gallon viv with a large waterfall on the left, a full daylight 100W heat lamp over an imitation tree branch in the center and two separate imitation stone caves (hides) on the right side and another longer imitation tree branch from center to right. Spread throughout the enclosure are a few large artificial plants that they sometimes like to hide in. The substrate I normally use is green indoor/outdoor carpeting cut to size. (trying Reptibark now to see how they like it) The heat lamp I have plugged into a timer so they get 12 hours on, 12 hours off on a regular day/night cycle. All of this mounted on a beautiful enclosed wood stand with doors for miscellaneous snake supply storage.
Sometimes they will stay in the same cave. Sometimes in separate caves. Sometimes one in a cave and the other in the leaves or behind a cave. Sometimes both of them hidden in the leaves or behind the same or different caves. There is plenty of room for them to move around, climb and explore, a large pool for them to bathe if that is what suits them and they can sleep/rest wherever they feel the most comfortable. As I said, I've never had any problem with either of them.
I feed them either f/t or brained adult mice depending on available supplies and give them purified water from a Pur brand tap water purifier (same stuff I drink)
The most difficult task is of course, cleaning their habitat. Occasionally they will take a dump in the waterfall and that's time-consuming to remove and clean. In spite of my best attempts at scrubbing with soap and water, minerals still built up on the waterfall, leaving it a bit discolored. If it gets too bad, I'll take it out and substitute with a regular water dish while I use other means to try to remove the deposits, then replace it after it's been very thoroughly cleaned of all traces of chemicals. The astroturf made general cage cleaning a breeze as I generally keep a couple extra pieces cut to fit. Not sure about this Reptibark yet, but they seem to like burrowing into it and are not using the caves as often. Just another option for them. Overall, the general cleaning is not too difficult, just takes a couple hours about every other week, a little more if they mess in the waterfall. Hey, it's a labor of love.
Some people like to keep it simple. Some people like extravagant. Do the snakes know the difference? I don't know, but I enjoy seeing snakes in a natural environment and provide mine with the closest thing I can. Not everyone can afford such a setup (mine cost almost 700 dollars). I would recommend reading as much as possible about keeping snakes in captivity and provide the best habitat you can at the time. Some people use newspaper as a substrate, some use small cardboard boxes as hides or a flat stone resting on smaller stones tilting up toward the back of the cage. A perfectly healthy, happy home can be provided for next to no cost, and you can always buy or build more as money and time become more available to you.
As with anything you might want to do in your life, it is always best to first do your research and take action based on informed, planned decisions to minimize any potential problems. Okay, with that last, I detect my military supervisory training mode starting to kick in and risk assessment lecture gearing up so I shall end this rather abruptly before I bore you to tears. LOL
Above all, love your snakes.
Erik
miamijuan3
New member
I currently keep two snakes a female amel and an anery sripe. I think its fine as long as they are close to the same size and are fed seperatly. I definitely think that your snakes are not safe to keep together because of the size difference
I dont think u can have a viv that is too big,
We cant forgot that these snakes are initially from the wild, and have miles and miles to roam around,
The bigger the better i say.
As for the 2 living together, i have to asked this question and to be honest its up to you.
Your snake can regurge, get sick, etc, by itself, just a bit more difficulty in solving problems with 2 of em.
We cant forgot that these snakes are initially from the wild, and have miles and miles to roam around,
The bigger the better i say.
As for the 2 living together, i have to asked this question and to be honest its up to you.
Your snake can regurge, get sick, etc, by itself, just a bit more difficulty in solving problems with 2 of em.
maverick20649
Rocky's Dad
well i have a 48x15x12 for my corn and it is perfect size especially after u put in all the hides and water bowl and stuff.
i have 2 corns together in a 36" x 24" x 18", i have never had any problems they seem to enjoy each other's company, if i take one out for more than about 15 Mins the other seems to get restless.
I have a friend who has 1 corn on it's own and he has lots of problems, it
refuses to eat, regurge's, bad shed's and i have never had any of that with mine so you cant blame it on have 2 together, that is causing it to happen.
At first i thought he wasn't looking after it right, but when i asked him he treat's it exactly the same way i do mine and the temp and stuff in his tank is fine!
my brother also has 2 corns together in a tank the same size as mine and has never had any problems either!
I guess it just depends on the snakes weather there will be problems.
Both me and my brother have male/female snakes together!
I have a friend who has 1 corn on it's own and he has lots of problems, it
refuses to eat, regurge's, bad shed's and i have never had any of that with mine so you cant blame it on have 2 together, that is causing it to happen.
At first i thought he wasn't looking after it right, but when i asked him he treat's it exactly the same way i do mine and the temp and stuff in his tank is fine!
my brother also has 2 corns together in a tank the same size as mine and has never had any problems either!
I guess it just depends on the snakes weather there will be problems.
Both me and my brother have male/female snakes together!
Roy Munson
New member
traf2006 said:
I hope the females are of breeding size and age. I've had an under-sized female impregnated when I kept snakes communally (which I haven't done for years), and it was tough bringing her back to relative health afterward. There were times when I was sure that she was a goner.
I keep adult females together without any problems but if anyone chooses to do this, they must be 100% sure of the sex.
I also keep yearlings of the same sex together and the same proviso applies just as much.
A cautionary tale.
Earlier this year a friend of mine, who is a very experienced snake keeper, put a 10 month old butter male in with a 12 month old creamsicle female, just for 10 minutes whilst he cleaned out the males viv. Several minutes later he was horrified to see the snakes mating.The male weighed 110 grams and the female about 150 grams and 2 and a half feet long at the time.
The female duly became gravid and laid a clutch of 7 eggs without difficulty, they were very elongate and small in diameter as one would expect.
6 of the eggs hatched and the hatchlings were of a good size and perfect. Unexpectedly, 2 were snows, very pale almost blizzard.
The outcome was surprisingly fortuitous as very young females are likely to become egg-bound and such precocious matings must be avoided.
I also keep yearlings of the same sex together and the same proviso applies just as much.
A cautionary tale.
Earlier this year a friend of mine, who is a very experienced snake keeper, put a 10 month old butter male in with a 12 month old creamsicle female, just for 10 minutes whilst he cleaned out the males viv. Several minutes later he was horrified to see the snakes mating.The male weighed 110 grams and the female about 150 grams and 2 and a half feet long at the time.
The female duly became gravid and laid a clutch of 7 eggs without difficulty, they were very elongate and small in diameter as one would expect.
6 of the eggs hatched and the hatchlings were of a good size and perfect. Unexpectedly, 2 were snows, very pale almost blizzard.
The outcome was surprisingly fortuitous as very young females are likely to become egg-bound and such precocious matings must be avoided.
Roy Munson
New member
traf2006 said:
Their weight is the most important factor. If the females aren't 300 grams or more, you may not want them to breed.
Roy Munson
New member
stormi said: