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2 snakes in 1 cage?

Kotone

Kotone

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Hello~

I was wondering whether or not it is looked down upon to have more than 1 corn snake in a single cage. I have 1 right now but am thinking about buying another soon. I haven't seen too much about keeping them in the same cage, so I was wondering if it was okay or advised against...

Thanks for the help. ^^
 
well.........to me it seems that if you are asking if it "would be looked down upon" then you have either heard or read something already that says not to. now if you will use the search feature and look up "cohabitation" you will probably come up with your answer. everyone has different feelings on this topic but i can almost guarantee you that 75% if not more on this forum will tell you no. i have done it (not currently) and also know some well respected people on this forum that have done and/or are doing it. :shrugs: just go with your instincts i guess.
also.........check out the link in my signature. :)
 
 
Ahh, thanks for the info everyone. ^^ I feel dumb now for not thinking to search for it, heh. :dunce:

I guess I'll have to stick to seperate areas for each one then...Maybe when they're a bit older i could house them together if i really need to, but I'd really rather not end up with 1 snake missing and another 2x it's size...>_<;;

Thanks again~
 
Kotone said:
I guess I'll have to stick to seperate areas for each one then...Maybe when they're a bit older i could house them together if i really need to, but I'd really rather not end up with 1 snake missing and another 2x it's size..
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that is the opposite reason to do it......................younger would be the better option if you HAD to do it. once they get older and you try it, you could possibly get a cluch of eggs when you are not expecting it and not to sure how to incubate and take care of them.
 
I personally keep all my snakes seperate and on here you will be advised to do the same BUT on the other hand ,
Every person i know who keeps corns (and i know a few ) keep them together in pairs and 1 guy has 3 in a 4 foot x 2.5 foot viv and not oneof them had ever had any problems and they all are very successful producing eggs every year ..

Id say Keep them seperate but its up to you in the end really..But if you do you need to introduce them to eachother quite a few times before housing together and it would probably be better to do it when they are younger rather than older..

Hope this helps .. :cheers:

A. Devil

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Hey gwb,,need to do a little fixin on that avatar.Wrong gender for that "crotch shot" :eek1: :sidestep:
 
zwyatt said:
Happy reading :D
...and there's plenty more to be found on cohabitation by utilizing the search feature.
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Thanks Zach.
Glad you got her before me.... :grin01:
Much appreciated
:cheers:
 
Droptines said:
Hey gwb,,need to do a little fixin on that avatar.Wrong gender for that "crotch shot" :eek1: :sidestep:
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THAT would get me banned...... :grin01:

gnarhimself said:
Thanks Zach.
Glad you got her before me....
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gwb8568 said:
now if you will use the search feature and look up "cohabitation" you will probably come up with your answer/also......check out the link in my signature. :)
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:shrugs: :grin01:
 
The reason i said wait until they're older was that most of the people in those threads that zwyatt posted had problems with hatchlings eating each other, but none with 2 adult females(if their temperments are good). Maybe i read it wrong... :shrugs:
 
cannabilism mostly only happens with hatchlings. I have het to hear about it in Adults...at least with cornsnakes. But, if the smell of food is still on one of the snakes, then the other will likely strike and if the bite succeeds, then you might end up with one snake.

I am one of the ones that has kept snakes together for a while, both as hatchlings and as adults. As a matter of fact, I have hatchlings of the same clutch being kept together right now till I can move them out and make more room. but I feed in seperate containers and make sure that I let them wait a while for scent to disapate before I put them back together. also, make sure that you have plenty of hide choices for the snakes. you want to offer at least 2 to 3 hides more if you are housing snakes together so that they can choose which ones to use.

No matter what people on here tell you, the decision is totally yours on keeping 2 snakes in one cage. Just make sure that you know all the risks involved and if you are willing to accept them, then by all means, keep them together. But, if the risks seem too high, then keep them seperate.
 
This post was on the hognose forum- it pertains to all snakes. I got the author's permission to quote it here.

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At this past weekend's meeting of the Va Herp Society, I picked up a circular by Joseph Mitchell, "Cannibalism in Reptiles: A Worldwide Review" at the auction. Although it was published 20 yrs ago, it was the first thorough review of the literature on the subject.

Although I was certain I'd find a report on Heterodon in there, there wasn't a mention of them. But I did find some info that has a lot of relevance to hogs.

Mitchell spent some time discussing the differences between observations of cannibalism of snakes in the field and in captivity.
Field = 60
Captivity = 106

No other order had more observations in captivity than in the field.

I think this clearly highlights a question that frequently comes up on this forum. Although there is positively some value of keeping snakes together for enrichment, it should not be a permanent arrangement. Many instances of cannibalism have been reported on this forum over the years, and it should be clear that keeping two of ANY snake together is a huge, and unnecessary, risk. Hogs have very strong feeding responses and don't discriminate against (potential) food items once the response is elicited and the item is in its mouth. Mitchell states that a lot of cannibal events are from 2 snakes eating the same food item at the same time, and the larger snake simply overtaking the smaller. I have experienced this in captive Northern watersnakes, and have seen it even in neonate rough green snakes.

Certainly, many people have kept snakes together without any problems, but just because I have driven 13yrs without an accident doesn't there weren't plenty of close calls and that I am somehow immune to such an event. The laws of probabilities will catch up even to the most attentive owner.

I want to encourage all of you recommend to future posters that keeping hogs together is an unnecessary risk. One's concern for an animal's health should supersede any amount of inconvenience or reasonable financial constraints.
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Virginia Herping
 
thanks for all the good info, guys. at least now I know more about the risks and what not to do, so i guess after this i'll make my own decision about keeping them together or not...^^;
 
It actually surprises me that most people use the possibility of cannabilism as the reason not to co-habitate. Disease transmission and accidental breeding is much more common and very real. If I took the time, I could probably come up with half a page of accidental breedings including the recent one in the breeding section of the 74 g miracle. There was also a recent post about someone who lost both of their snakes because they housed together and someone left the lid ajar. Spread of disease would be my biggest reason after stress. Someone who is new to keeping reptiles might not recognize the signs of stress in their new animal. Even experienced keepers have not realized their one snake was stressed until they seperated the two and the one started eating more and was out and about more often. I think it's best for new keepers to keep animals seperated. I know I could probably safely co-habitate some of my animals, but there are more of them that I would not due to a stress factor. They aren't communal animals in the wild except at breeding time and there's no reason to think that they are better off with a companion in captivity.
 
Kotone said:
thanks for all the good info, guys. at least now I know more about the risks and what not to do, so i guess after this i'll make my own decision about keeping them together or not...^^;
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Along with more popular reasons I dont cohabitate so that I can tell when each snake sheds, poos, is sick. If you keep them together you might not be able to keep track of which snake did what.

:-offtopic I just have a quick question. In your other posts in another thread it seems that you are still new to this. You have asked questions about simple things (housing, heating, handling, etc). Dont you think it would be wise to make sure you are capable of caring for your first snake before you get a second one. Like maybe wait a few months so you can get the hang of things. I am not attacking you this is Just my 2 cents.....?
 
That's true, but over the past 3 days I've been doing lots of research on this forum and on other sites to make sure I'm doing everything right.. really the only thing I need right now is a glass tank, because I can't use the heater I bought with the plastic one.

I don't think a second one would be getting in too much over my head, although I'm not yet completely set on doing so, just because I still am new to all of this. The last thing I would want to do would be to cause my snake(s) harm. :x
 
Kotone said:
That's true, but over the past 3 days I've been doing lots of research on this forum and on other sites to make sure I'm doing everything right.. really the only thing I need right now is a glass tank, because I can't use the heater I bought with the plastic one.

I don't think a second one would be getting in too much over my head, although I'm not yet completely set on doing so, just because I still am new to all of this. The last thing I would want to do would be to cause my snake(s) harm. :x
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Remember: Book knowlege is no substitute for first hand experience.
 
Cycal said:
Remember: Book knowlege is no substitute for first hand experience.
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very true..........hands on experience is the best way to learn. same way as riding a bike. you can read a book, look at different pics, watch other people ride one, take it apart and put it back together, etc..............but you will still not know how to ride it.
having said that, we are dealing with a living thing. reading a book or searching online for information would be a VERY good substitute for first hand experience in this case...............just my $.03. :shrugs:
 
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