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Another idiot causes the death...

Hypancistrus said:
I am not even going to touch the death penalty. Unless you've lost a loved-one to murder, you've no right to comment on whether it is right or wrong, IMHO, and so I don't get into it.

Does that mean we can't comment on anything if it hasn't happened to us? I think you will find that you, and everyone else in this world has opinions on things they have never experienced.

Meg, I respect your feelings on this too. I'm not going to change my mind, and you're not going to change your mind, so we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. :)
 
That's alright! That's what makes a forum and forum. Different opinions expressed by each person. It would be boring if we always agreed.....even if I'm right! :) Um.... is this where we group hug or something or go for a communal beer?
 
MegF. said:
That's alright! That's what makes a forum and forum. Different opinions expressed by each person. It would be boring if we always agreed.....even if I'm right! :) Um.... is this where we group hug or something or go for a communal beer?

Indeed! I like it that people are all different.
Wouldn't say no to that beer by the way ;)
 
Just think of all the money that guy wasted on crack that he could have been buying snakes with!

Nanci
 
Nanci said:
Just think of all the money that guy wasted on crack that he could have been buying snakes with!

Nanci
Never thought of that!! Such a waste......
 
Plissken said:
Does that mean we can't comment on anything if it hasn't happened to us? I think you will find that you, and everyone else in this world has opinions on things they have never experienced.

Nope. It's just a personal policy of mine. You can feel free to comment away, but I refuse to debate it. :)
 
Hypancistrus said:
Nope. It's just a personal policy of mine. You can feel free to comment away, but I refuse to debate it. :)

Since you commented on my personal policies, I do feel free to comment on yours. However, nobody is trying to make you debate on them, so I'm happy to leave it at that. ;)

Nanci said:
Just think of all the money that guy wasted on crack that he could have been buying snakes with!

:rofl:
 
What a Pandora's Box...

I've opened here!
As someone else stated we aren't going to change each others mind. But to the question of valuing human life over animal. Sure if I'm driving down a three lane road with a person in the middle lane and a Collie in each of the side lanes, well Lassie is getting it. If I got out of the car and found it was the same guy who went swimming with the gators, I would feel doubly terrible.
I sure as h*ll don't advocate killing anybody. Trust me in my line of work I've saved a few people who couldn't do it for themselves.
I'm upset cause this gator died due to the actions of a irresponsible individual. This gator was big, been around for a long, long time. Human "life." This guy has no life. He simply exists. And that is the way he wanted it.
Drug addiction. Seen many times. I remember Tommy Lasorda said one thing in his life I agreed with. He was asked in a roundabout way about the heroics of Daryll Strawberry going to rehab for the third time.
"Hero?" he said, "Anyone who puts that garbage in their system once let alone more than once is no hero."
 
I'm watching, again, the movie "Grizzley Man" about Timothy Treadwell who goes to live with grizzleys in Alaska for 13 years, and eventually gets killed and eaten by one. There's an interview with the guy who goes to recover the body who says he deserved it, he was asking for it. I don't think so- he knew the risks, and accepted the risks, but he didn't "deserve" to be killed by a bear- he was working toward bear conservation, he loved the bears. Perhaps, though, it was inevitable that he went that way.

Interestingly, he was self-admittedly a big drinker. Like, he couldn't stop for anything- _till_ he decided the bears needed him as their spokesperson. Then he quit drinking, no looking back. It's like it was his calling.

Nanci
 
The problem with Tim Treadwell is that he stopped thinking of bears as bears and instead tried to humanize them. They were bears. He stopped being respectful of their territory and tried to act like a bear and not only did he get killed but the girl with him. He did deserve it just as any bear that got into another bear's turf would deserve it. They are animals, not people! Forgetting that part gets you nailed every time!
 
Treadwell was kind of a lunatic. I have no doubt that he loved the bears and really wanted to save them, but he really had no business being out there in my opinion. He seemed obviously unbalanced and needed some psychological help to me. He's out in the woods sobbing over a dead bee and taming all the foxes. Can't be healthy.
 
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