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OP . . .

my hypotheses is, is that your problems ARE likely caused by incorrect housing. As other have said, it isn't a problem till there is one! You are saying there isn't a problem where the is a problem, instead complaining about other problems which would all be solved if you just stuck a snake in a separate Tupperware!

See your horribly circular reasoning?

I don't think you're going to get any other answers here. Every time you post a thread asking for advice, the first thing you're going to be told is separate your snakes! If you are having all of these consistent problems that I've NEVER had with my snakes in my time snake-owning, then you need to examine your husbandry!

Might I suggest finding another home for snake #2?
 
windowswisher said:
OP . . .

my hypotheses is, is that your problems ARE likely caused by incorrect housing. As other have said, it isn't a problem till there is one! You are saying there isn't a problem where the is a problem, instead complaining about other problems which would all be solved if you just stuck a snake in a separate Tupperware!

See your horribly circular reasoning?

I don't think you're going to get any other answers here. Every time you post a thread asking for advice, the first thing you're going to be told is separate your snakes! If you are having all of these consistent problems that I've NEVER had with my snakes in my time snake-owning, then you need to examine your husbandry!

Might I suggest finding another home for snake #2?
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Might I say your wasting your breath. She's been told time and time again in a very nice way to not co-hab. Yet she has continued to think she could see if her snakes were not likeing it.
I'd like to say this latest instance should prove to her, her snakes are stressing and do NOT like to be in the same viv together.
 
Don't you all know, the supplier she purchased from (you know, the one she gave money to) is right, and alllllllllllllllllllllllll of us are wrong!!!!

In this case, those snakes are likely to be together "til death do they part"...which judging by the troubles they are having might not be too long!!

btw, my snakes live alone, and whenever I move them to another cage so I can clean out their vivs, some of them freak out. They don't like being in a cage with different smells then what they are used to.
 
Wow I really hope the OP is still reading this and I really hope that the OP keeps in mind what brought them to this forum. . . . . . .

To the OP. . .
You admitted you are new to snakes
You are not Harry Potter and therefore you cannot speak snake
You posted your inquiry looking for advice and direction


Part of being a responsible adult and pet owner is developing the ability to make decision based on the experience of others. It's time to grow up and do whats in the best interest of the snakes.You mentioned that you tried to separate them and they tried to meet each other in the middle or something Did you ever stop and think that out of site means out of mind ? I think you fabricated the emotional connection snakes do not seek out company in the wild why would yours be the exception ? The older the snakes get the more problems your going to have I sincerely hope it doesn't result in the death of one or both of your snakes.
 
JemmaUK said:
Why a bad shed with one snake when the other shed almost perfectly when the environment is identical?
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It has been an observation when cohabbing that one snake is generally "dominant" over the other, and the less dominant one experiences more stress and is more likely to display symptoms of that additional stress. I would take the advice given here with a grain of salt... everyone's not just saying these things for no reason, and there is a plethora of evidence to support their claims. I used to cohab my snakes... the breeder I got them from kept his together, and I never thought twice about it. I never realized it was a problem. Then one of the adults had been missexed and my female became gravid. Months later, the clutch she had had horrendous eating difficulties while being housed together (which I was doing "temporarily"). The issues resolved themselves almost 100% once I separated them, but unfortunately due to their bad start a few did not make it in the long run. With that experience combined with what I have learned here since then, I will never cohab again. But that is my choice... Ultimately, they are your snakes and it is your decision. And that's all I'll add to the "Great Debate."

Anyway, stuck shed is no big deal, unless it happens consistently. Check your temps, humidity, etc. As for the cold snake... if he has the ability to thermoregulate I doubt he will freeze himself, even if he is trying to get away from the other snake, but again check your temps. As long as the "cold" side is within proper range, there should be no danger of him accidentally becoming a popsicle.
 
JemmaUK said:
I have checked and rechecked with my supplier - they dont have an issue with it - the only proviso is snakes the same size and breed - and they are the same size and breed - and that you split them before 12-18 months old - which as I have said before I intend to do anyway.
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So you admit that they need to be separated when they get older and closer to reaching sexual maturity? How are you going to separate them then if they freak out and "can't stand to be away from each other"? What is the difference if you do it now or later, especially if you plan on doing it anyway? Get it over with before they become even more "attached" to each other. ;)
 
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