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Bull snake hatchling? Or Black Racer?

sscsgem

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My boyfriend found this little guy right out side my door. He was very calm until he got in a tank... He is very fiesty now :crazy02: . I have never seen a snake quite like him so I wanted to find out what he is. I will release him after. I have looked on the net and so far he looks similar to a black racer, gopher, and bull snake... In other words I have no clue what he is :shrugs: . He has lots of saddles that are brown with a hint of dark red in them, really very pretty color. His background color is an olive grey. He has a smaller head than a similarly sized corn and a very short tail, maybe this he is a she? S/he has a heavily checkered belly. The pics aren't great. I will get more if needed. Thanks!!! Jennifer
 

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I vote no for baby black racer...
 

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Similair to an emoryi.. Are there emoryi in your area???

Regards.. Tim of T and J
 
I don't think there are emoryi in my area... S/he does look like the prarie king, but the juveniles are supposed to have a brown stripe down their back. This little one is about the size of a newly hatched corn. I have seen 3 month old corns longer than this guy. Oh, I was feeding my two males and just for the heck of it thawed a small pink. I put it in this little one's tank and within 2 min it was down his/her throat. I was very supprised! :grin01:
 
Looking at a list of snakes naturally found in Kentucky, I would say its either a prairie king or eastern milk.
 
I was going to guess Rat snake all the way until I saw the belly, it totally threw me off.

Cute little guy anyway!
 
I've no idea what it is, and it may not come from your area.
could be you found someone else's escapee,and it won't survive being released.
What I'd love to know is
If you had to ask on here what it is,
How did you know that it wasn't venomous when you picked it up?
MIKE
 
snakewispera snr said:
I've no idea what it is, and it may not come from your area.
could be you found someone else's escapee,and it won't survive being released.
What I'd love to know is
If you had to ask on here what it is,
How did you know that it wasn't venomous when you picked it up?
MIKE

Just because you don't know what it is doesn't mean you don't know it's not a coral, rattler, copperhead or cottonmouth...

Nanci
 
What Nanci said... in North America, it's pretty easy. Corals, as long as you get the rhyme right... Everything else has a pretty easy head shape. Only a VERY dumb little 7 year old would reach down and pick up a baby cottonmouth, only to be VERY VERY lucky that the inevitable strike got him on the thumbnail and didn't penetrate. I ... er... he learned a big lesson that day! If you can't determine for sure what it isn't, don't pick it up!

I vote keep it, too, since it eats for you, and it could be an escapee that wouldn't survive in the wild. Yeah, that's the ticket!
 
So basically, you guys may not know what a snake is but you know which ones not to touch. That makes sense.
We don't have those problems here as theres only the European adder to worry about, and they're as rare as hens teeth.
And in Ireland they don't get any snakes in the wild.
Mike
 
Yes, I knew what he wasn't. :grin01: We only have a few venomous in my area and I know what they look like as hatchlings. From the shape of his head, his eyes (and yes I carefully got close enough to look BEFORE my BF picked him up, can't let him hurt himself :eek1: ), and his calm demenor (at first anyway) :crazy02:
 
I have found some info on Prairie kings in my area and they don't have the stripe down their back like the kings in the west. So I agree with the Prairie king idea... :grin01:
 
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