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Calling the TESSERA EXPERTS!

SquamishSerpents

SquamishSerpents

Katia
What are these!?

Is the one on the right a Tessera Stripe, or a Normal Vanishing Stripe?

The left one is obviously a Tessera. I am not sure if it is a Tessera Stripe, or just a regular Tessera. I thought Stripe but now that I am looking closer, the part near the neck that is not a complete uniform stripe is throwing me off.

But on the right snake, the color "outside the lines" is telling me it is not Tessera and is just a Normal Stripe.

I've included some close-up crops, as well as a photo of one of my older Tessera Stripes.

All Tesseras I have hatched, have a black outline separating the middle (lighter) stripe from the 2 darker stripes. You can see the black outline very well on the juvenile Tessera Stripe in the last pic!

Snake in question (pic for side pattern):
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Tessera Stripe (pic for side pattern):
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Also of note, I think the snake in question is in shed as of right now, but I'm not sure.
 
I haven't produced enough tess stripes to consider myself anything CLOSE to an expert, but at first glance, I thought tess stripe on the left, stripe on the right. If I were gambling, I'd stick with that.
 
I'm by no means a Tessera expert. My first thought was Stripe. But- the stripe is narrow, it is not connected at the neck, and it goes all the way to the tail. I'm going to bet Tessera Stripe.
 
Nanci said:
I'm by no means a Tessera expert. My first thought was Stripe. But- the stripe is narrow, it is not connected at the neck, and it goes all the way to the tail. I'm going to bet Tessera Stripe.
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This is what was throwing me off too, and the fact that there is no black outline. SO weird! I was almost 100% sure that it was a Normal Stripe, I just can't believe how different it looks from it's sibling.
 
Nanci said:
I'm by no means a Tessera expert. My first thought was Stripe. But- the stripe is narrow, it is not connected at the neck, and it goes all the way to the tail. I'm going to bet Tessera Stripe.
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I agree with Nanci. The head pattern is saying Tess! Also the dorsal stripes are too thick for a typical "Stripe".
 
steve roylance said:
I agree with Nanci. The head pattern is saying Tess! Also the dorsal stripes are too thick for a typical "Stripe".
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Which one.. The right one????

If its the right one does the stripe get wider the further down or is that an illusion... ???? Also the stripe appears to bleed which tessera seems to prevent 'normally'?!?!?
 
multicorn said:
Which one.. The right one????

If its the right one does the stripe get wider the further down or is that an illusion... ???? Also the stripe appears to bleed which tessera seems to prevent 'normally'?!?!?
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Yes, the right one. Not sure how many Stripes Iv'e seen with a perfect full head pattern???

Also, the stripe does fade a little down close to the tail, but it does continue to the tail tip.
 
Yeah, I'd agree with Nanci and Steve. If that's just a normal stripe, it is by far the BEST example of a stripe the world has ever seen. I really do think they're both tesseras, but the one in question is a tessera stripe. Heck, half the clutch should be striped, so it should be expected to get some killer tessy stripes in the clutch.
 
This striped Tessera was on here breeding loan from Don @ SMR for the 2011 & 2012 seasons. I produced some fantastic striped Tessera's and normal patterned Tesseras with some great hets from him. The last photo is a regular patterned Tessera /100% het stripe. A product of the pairing pictured above.
 
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One of these 2013 Striped Tesseras will be going to live with Don. They have some awesome hets.;)
 
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Amber stripe/motley Tessera



normal stripe (amber)



tessera Macro



NON tessera macro



well this is my theory anyway hahahaha..!!!

I base it on what I would hold back for projects I would keep the definite tessera but I wouldn't keep the other..!!

I hope the other is a tessera stripe if so I have sold tessera stripes for $40 (ooops)

the more years we all produce these we will get it sorted hahahaha..!!
 
Notice that the Nuchal stripe on Tessies and Striped Tessies is always connected to the head pattern, and on Reg Stripes it's disconnected.

Nice pics BTW!!!
 
As I understand it, the only thing that would determine whether it is a tessera or not is if the stripe goes beyond the vent. I got this from Don who has held this belief since striped tesseres came out. All the striped regular corns (even the fully striped ones) stop at the vent (some with that cool bowtie at the end). As Don has said this has been true for all the striped tesseras he has hatched and sold but could change as we breed more tesseras who seem to make near perfect stripes and motleys into regular corns.
John
 
Nanci said:
I thought it was the opposite, Steve, but I wouldn't go so far as to say always..
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Look at the Striped Motley Amber Tesseras head pattern the stripes and it, are one. The arrowhead head pattern turns into striping. The Striped Ambers head pattern is reduced and separate from the striped at the neck (Not touching). Maybe not always, but at least on the ones Iv'e seen so far. Also like John said the stripes continue down the length of the tail.
 
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